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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:52 am 
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I thought this would be about Huge Chavez.

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The most important lesson in the history of american warfare:

Don't underestimate the power and resolve of armed citizenry fighting in and for their homelands.

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Rorinthas wrote:
The most important lesson in the history of american warfare:

Don't underestimate the power and resolve of armed citizenry fighting in and for their homelands.


Yes but both sides are in their homeland (referring to Libyan government and the rebels).


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Have the reports of Quadafi hiring Algerian mercs been confirmed


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i know he hired sub-saharan mercs, but i haven't heard anything about Algeria.


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Rorinthas wrote:
The most important lesson in the history of american warfare:

Don't underestimate the power and resolve of armed citizenry fighting in and for their homelands.


Sadly, it's been apparent that the rebels have been losing for some time now.

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Vindicarre,

Just to be Devil's Advocate, do you think the rebels are fit to run a country?


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I don't see why not.
I'm sure King George, and many of his subjects, thought the rebels in the colonies weren't fit...

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As fit as anyone else who can dole out oil wealth to their fellow tribesmen, sure.

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Vindicarre wrote:
I'm sure King George, and many of his subjects, thought the rebels in the colonies weren't fit...


It has taken 200 years, but we are proving them right...

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Rorinthas wrote:
The most important lesson in the history of american warfare:

Don't underestimate the power and resolve of armed citizenry fighting in and for their homelands.


We're actually running about 50/50 on that one.

However, once there's a no-fly zone being enforced, or Qaddaffi runs out of ammunition or spare parts for his air power, I expect the balance to shift.

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darksiege wrote:
Vindicarre wrote:
I'm sure King George, and many of his subjects, thought the rebels in the colonies weren't fit...


It has taken 200 years, but we are proving them right...


While I don't disagree with your ideas backing this post, it's probably relevant to consider just how long countries end up lasting as-is. The fact that Vindi's post mentions King George and his subjects, for example, says a lot on this very subject. :p

The French Revolution came decades after our own. Germany has been through all sorts of changes. Japan in 1850 vs Japan in 2000? 1900 China to 2010 China...

In a certain regard, we've lasted awhile already.


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A chaotic environment does not help economic growth. Even if they form a "government" it will not be stable and investment risks in the area will be high.

Anyways, I don't really understand what the rebels hope to get out of this? Yeah being more "free" is good and all, but not when you're unemployed.


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Also, it's amusing how the rebels want to be "saved" by the international community when the fact is they started this war.


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Diamondeye wrote:
Rorinthas wrote:
The most important lesson in the history of american warfare:

Don't underestimate the power and resolve of armed citizenry fighting in and for their homelands.


We're actually running about 50/50 on that one.

However, once there's a no-fly zone being enforced, or Qaddaffi runs out of ammunition or spare parts for his air power, I expect the balance to shift.


I don't expect a no-fly zone to get out of the UN Security Council. It looks like by the time his air power needs major resupply, it'll all be over.

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Maybe. Third world air forces are notorious for poor maintenance and I doubt he can fabricate many parts locally. Ammunition he might be in better shape on.

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Also, it's amusing how the rebels want to be "saved" by the international community when the fact is they started this war.


I seem to recall another group of rebels that were saved by the international community after starting a war....

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Oh, you and your historical fact.

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Needless to say, I'm a bit surprised at the UN vote.

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I think in a battle between the two in the OP... the safe bet is on Rao the Conqueror.

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Libyan rebels, better armed and more of them.

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