The Glade 4.0

I don't. I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
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I don't "stock up" on guns. I buy them because I like to shoot. It would be like saying people here are "stocking up" on video games - its an outright crazy notion. How many copies of HALO does everyone have? Let me guess - one.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Learning First Aid is a response to the statistical probability that the skill will be needed by the average person or someone around them at some point in one's life. Since that possibility is as likely as it is, someone devoting some attention to it would be reasonable, in my opinion.

Since the probability of needing survivalist skills in a first world country is ... well, I suppose several orders of magnitude less likely, I personally consider it unreasonable.

In my opinion it's creepy. Oh, not the living in the wild idea (that's just eccentric), but the stockpiling guns and ammo stuff in preparation for the fall of civilization idea. Creepy and disturbing.

How many times in recent history has civilization fell? I'd say, not very often. Just that once, and I refuse to take responsibility for that.

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I partially agree with Hopwin, here. Notice he said "more than two" when referring to stockpiling guns.

How many guns can you personally weild at once? Admittedly, different types of guns have different usages, but "stockpiling" makes it sound like you're planning to outfit a personal army. Two is more than enough to defend your food and shelter.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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If I was going the extreme "survive" route, I wouldn't use or be near vehicles that go fast. I would exercise more and eat healthier foods, and so on. Even then I'd still die eventually. I wouldn't stock up on guns or food.

I disagree. I admit that some of Elm's posts make me uncomfortable and occasionally worried, but I am even more uncomfortable and worried about long-term government watch lists becoming normalized the way they have. It's one thing for law enforcement to take a second look at someone if a red flag pops up, but if that second look doesn't reveal anything warranting a formal investigation of probable criminal activity, that should be the end of it.

Not to make this about Elm personally, but I think this point should be clarified. To my knowledge, Elm has never made a "death threat" against anyone. There's a very big difference between saying someone deserves to die and threatening to make it happen.

I can see someone having a rifle, a shotgun, and a couple of pistols (one large caliber and one small). Perhaps even two rifles if one is a .22 or whatever. Collectors are understandable too.

It's when someone stockpiles mountains of ammo that I feel they've crossed over into their own personal twilight zone.

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He's written that he wished me to have a painful and lingering death.

If one were to do that for someone they actually knew, I'd consider it a death threat, somewhat veiled, but a death threat nonetheless.

I consider it part of his condition.

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Yeah, I'll admit to being torn on those lists. I can see the value in them, but I do think there should be some process where one can clear one's name and get removed.

Ideally, I wish they didn't exist. Of course I also wish radical **** didn't crash planes into buildings and make bombs.

...how the **** are they supposed to defend themselves against the zombie apocalypse when they have only a few clips, man?

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I'm going to have to agree with Taskiss here. Elmo has made some very pointed and specific wishes and statements that specific people should die.

Magazines.

Yeah, gotta have the copies of Hustler, Guns & Ammo and Muscle Cars to go with the bullets...

My point is basically that if you routinely make death wishes throughout your life (I'm assuming he hasn't made them exclusively on the Glade), you'll end up on a watch list or two, especially if you're a political activist.

...or a plumber, apparently.

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It should come as no surprise to anyone that I own several firearms. It should likewise come as no surprise to anyone that I own more firearms than the much-maligned Muppet.

For survivalist and self-defense purposes, the magic number of weapons is 3, as that happens to be the amount of firearms you can reasonably carry on your person with appropriate stores of ammunition without being over encumbered.

1 sidearm in a ubiquitous and reasonably effective caliber. 9mm is acceptable simply because of the overabundance of semi-automatic pistols chambered for 9mm. Ideally, however, you want something in .38 special/.357 mag if it's a revolver or .45 ACP for a semi-auto. Assuming nothing cataclysmic happens, I would recommend .357 Sig or .40 S&W for general purpose self-defense if you're hell bent on a semi-auto with sizable magazine capacity. Of course, I'm a big proponent of a double action revolver in most cases.

1 rifle chambered in .308 or .30-06 if you need something with a lot of power, but a .22 LR is likely your best bet here. The advantage to .308 and .30-06 is ease of reloading and, again, the ubiquitous nature of ammunition should you find yourself living in a mad-max like world. Another viable option is something in 5.62 x 39 mm Russian (Yugo SKS M66 post 1970 construction is probably the best option here).

1 12 gauge shotgun with at least a 5 round capacity. Keep a stock of #9 high brass bird shot and some 00 Buck. The 00 Buck is Zombies.

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As a percentage of your income I think you probably have less.

You don't generally advocate for the private ownership of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons though, Khross.

Bah. I've played plenty of first person shooters where one carries 8-9 different weapons with hundreds of rounds for each of them and never felt encumbered even once!

What?

You don't recommend the BFG-9000, then, Khross? How about a rocket launcher?

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Actually, I don't have any problems with the private ownership of nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons. Nor, for that matter, do I disapprove of the private ownership of tanks, war ships, fighter jets, and other weaponized systems on that scale.

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In your ideology, is it acceptable for a Muslim to walk into the U.S. with a small nuke in his backpack? Just curious.

I know bupkis about guns, but isn't .22 too small for hunting large game? If so, I would think a larger caliber would be preferable so you could easily switch between hunting deer and defending your petrol against this guy.

There aren't any deer in the deserts of Australia.

In a SHTF scenario every bumbling Fudd is going to strip the land of big game. Your diet will be birds and small land mammals. For that purpose a .22 is absolutely fine with the bonus of being light, cheap, small, and plentiful. Also in a world where antibiotics are the realm of the very prepared or wealthy a .22 shot can seem like a very very dangerous weapon (aside from the fact that it can kill you itself).

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No, a .22 is sufficiently deadly for just about any land mammal in North America. Depending on how good a shot you are.

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