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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:50 am 
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Hannibal wrote:
Oh look they finally found Obamas long form birth certificate.


Not quite. The White House asked Hawaii to waive the normal procedure not to release copies of it. And oh look, even the long form is a "certificate of live birth". That's the best part, since so many were hung up on the semantics.

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Yay, now the idiot chorus gets to change its refrain from "Where's the birth certificate?" to "Yes, but is it real?," with a net change of 0% in the annoyance factor for everyone else.

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Just as a matter of course ...

Hawaii short-forms are titled Certifications of Live Birth, not Certificates.

That said, the only thing that will perpetuate the argument now is the same thing that's perpetuated the argument since it started: who has standing to verify the Constitutional Eligibility of a candidate?

It is not the "People". It is not individual citizens. It is not Congress. It is not a State. It is not competing candidates.

Who has standing? Regardless of the outcome or veracity of a Hawaii birth, the damage was done in the legal system long before this point.

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That said, the only thing that will perpetuate the argument now is the same thing that's perpetuated the argument since it started: who has standing to verify the Constitutional Eligibility of a candidate?


This was your argument. I have not heard this argument made on one single main stream network, cable network, or radio broadcast. A lot of people were focused on Obama's birth certificate, I would suggest moreso than were concerned about standing.

So I think that if this comes up again in main stream, it will be because of crazy. The debate will continue about standing, but this will not be widely discussed.


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Khross wrote:
Just as a matter of course ...

Hawaii short-forms are titled Certifications of Live Birth, not Certificates.


And, apparently, so are their long forms.

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No, the documents are titled differently.

"Certificate of Live Birth" for the document released today.

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"Certification of Live Birth" for the short form document released previously.
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Good
So much for "It's already been released..." and "It can't be released..."

In Focus: Afterbirthers Demand To See Obama's Placenta http://onion.com/aIsqbH

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Vindicarre wrote:
In Focus: Afterbirthers Demand To See Obama's Placenta http://onion.com/aIsqbH

Dammit, you made Mt Dew come out my nose :(

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Glad to be of service. ;)

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Lol, looks like it ain't over:
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Pretty obvious, even to me.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185094

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And people were wondering why he didn't release it previously.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
And people were wondering why he didn't release it previously.

Because it's a bad forgery? *ducks*

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A government employee was incompetent at something? Inconceivable.


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You know, were I in his place, after all this folderol I'd release my birth certificate with fake non-edits, just to **** with people.


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FarSky wrote:
You know, were I in his place, after all this folderol I'd release my birth certificate with fake non-edits, just to **** with people.


Best troll in history.

O: Everyone keeps thinking I'm from Kenya. I should withold my birth certificate to see how badly everyone freaks out.

later

O: I know! I'll take this pristine copy of my birth certificate, photocopy it a hundred times, alter it slightly without changing anything, and circulate that for a while.

later

O: Hey, I wonder what would happen if I appointed the guy that maintains records at the hospital where I was born to a nice position.


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I think Obama is already trolling all the liberals. Starting a 3rd war unprovoked and getting the liberals to support it is classic trolling. That's just one thing though.


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Me, earlier in the thread wrote:
At this point, I'm convinced that the "something" is a deep-seated desire to troll the **** out of an entire nation.

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Vindicarre wrote:
Lol, looks like it ain't over:
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Pretty obvious, even to me.

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185094


Well, it does say date above, not date below. I realize that might not deter some of the bigger nutballs, but really I hardly expect the registrar would process it the same day as the birth, especially back when there were no computers.

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Khross wrote:
No, the documents are titled differently.

"Certificate of Live Birth" for the document released today.

"Certification of Live Birth" for the short form document released previously.


My mistake. I missed the -ate vs. -ation change. Thanks!

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