The Glade 4.0

CLI - you can double click with the left button to copy, left click to paste, or you can use filename completion, etc.

I don't even run X automatically, I use run level 3.

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And triple click to select the whole line.

getting a small tablet device (or even a phone) that can run my legacy windows applications may kill IOS for me.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Nothing. But I had no problems with Me or Vista either. It will probably be another one I think is good, but the public in general sees as a failure.

I am basing this on the trend of every other OS Microsoft makes being "garbage" per my little list above.

My only complaint is that they just made Windows 7 fairly recently.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Windows 7 was released in October 2009. This means that it will reach the first stage in Microsoft Product end of life cycle in only 16 months. IIRC this means they will stop offering the product for sale at this point. So in MS eyes its certainly time to start talking about its replacement.

Not shilling, just sayin'

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Kind of looks like Windows Phone 7, just bigger and in landscape, with the same ridiculous amount of wasted space on the start screen.

I do like that they are finally making a touch friendly browser though, I've wanted something comparable to phone based internet browsers for my UMPC for ages and that looks like just what I want, though who knows if Windows 8 would even run on my UMPC so may not be helpful, but it will definitely make windows tablets far more viable.

Me no likey. My pc is not a tablet. I don't need it to have that functionality.

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Holy shitsnacks!

It looks like you'll be able to keep a lot of the classic functionality. No I won't be running running off to upgrade my Pc either, but I like the idea of one OS for all my devices.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Do ipads support native Mac programs or only apps? If I get an tablet I want to be able to run VNC, for example.

It can be set up to run very much like traditional windows

The thing that concerns me is the implications that the interface I don't choose to run will have on influencing the way applications are coded. This is basically encouraging everything to run *something* in the background, like every program you have residing in your system tray or as a sidebar gadget.

I don't want that on my PC programs.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

They run apps (it's iOS, not OSX)... That said, there are lots of good VNC apps for the iPad that will give you full control of your computer if you want to run something that isn't an app.

I think similar to Win8, the new OS (Lion) and iOS 5 are supposed to do a lot to bring together the mobile/desktop OS.

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Ditto. I only want to run what I start. No goddamn gadgets, no system tray crap.

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Holy shitsnacks!

PC Gamer has some interesting thoughts on Windows 8, from a gaming perspective.

Most astute, I found, were the musings near the end of the article.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

This is probably a good change, for allowing the OS to be ubiquitous across various types of hardware. However, i'm not fond of interface changes just for the sake of interface changes. No matter how much I use it, Office 2007/2010 will never be as easy to use or as efficient as Office 2003, for example. If an interface works, leave it alone.

The problem i suppose is that the old interface doesn't work -- not in all applications or on all types of hardware. Hence the need for change.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
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Except that 2007/2010 are much more usable, and expose so much more of the content that was buried in nested menus directly to the user of the app without having to dig. I can understand that there's a learning curve for any new UI (especially when you're already familar with the tasks you perform regularly and the steps to complete them), but as someone who has supported a lot of users on 2003 and then 2007/2010, users have a much easier time succeeding in what they need to do with the ribbon interface.

I think that Windows 8 could be a good product (especially since it appears so easy to swich out of the windows phone interface), but for a lot of users, the pane interface is all they need. Most home users use their PC's for just a few things on a regular basis, checking e-mail, surfing the web, etc. A larger pane interface that provides more information will be perfect for that.

Just as long as it doesn't cause a rash of "good for your desktop and tablet and phone" games that reduce all games to running in 64MB of RAM.

2003 is much more usable in my opinion. I've been using 2007 for a few years now (not on a daily basis) and I still have trouble finding the correct options.

I like 2007... but I need a damn roadmap

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

The problem there is that most of us have been conditioned that if you want to do something, you click on File. If that doesn't work, try Edit and so on. People don't realize they have to look for that ****, and that's what the ribbon is designed to facilitate.

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it's not any easier to find, now. The file menu was, for the most part, logical and methodical. The ribbon appears to be a crapshoot...the groupings don't really make much sense, and the location of a lot of things is harder to find than ever. Creating an outlook data file, for example, is far from intuitive now, where as before it was "File > New > Outlook Data File." Now you have to go through several extra windows to find that option, starting with the seemingly unrelated option "Account Settings." Before it was right there at level 1.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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People who are not really users prefer the extra layer of windows telling them what to do.

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Only it doesn't tell you what to do. "Account settings" as a heading has nothing to do with .pst files. I could not randomly "stumble-across" that option as I was looking for it, I had to look it up. In 2003, I never had to look anything up. I didn't need to know where it was, because everything was in a sensible place to find it by a simple search.

I find that this is the norm with the "ribbon interface." Where once I didn't need to memorize option locations, I could simply find them based on a logical, methodical procedure, now I need to memorize them. If I do not know where the option is, I need to look them up first, then memorize them to find them later, because more often than not, i won't be able to find it based on a simple search. The ribbon interface may be more friendly once you have it memorized, but it's terrible for the casual user of the application because it's not userfriendly when it comes to finding what you need, whereas in 2003, you could always find something just by following a logical path.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Interesting thought... What if people who were in unfamiliar territory automatically assumed that the logical path was the wrong one?

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As well, in your example at least, that is not a procedure a casual user is likely to perform more than once. (at least, let's hope not, with how much garbage PST files are).

You can actually add any command to any ribbon or the quick bar. If you're creating a lot of outlook data files, right click on your home tab, hit customize quick access toolbar, select "commands not in the ribbon", select "new outlook data file", and hit add and OK. Now, at the very top of your screen above the ribbons, you have a button that will instantly add an outlook data file no matter where you are in the main screen in outlook.

(another nice feature is creating an entirely new tab with all of the standard features you use and have to look around to find on it.)

Oh, that particular issue was just an example. I ran into it while rebuilding a user's entire windows profile to fix an unrelated error, then configuring their Outlook profile again to connect to all their archives and PSTs (and she wanted a new one while she had me on the phone.) We're mostly still on 2003 here, but a select few people have 2007/2010. I have 2010 at home, but I really don't like it (and rarely use it anyway).

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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