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WASHINGTON — Thousands of borrowers on the verge of foreclosure will soon have the option of renting their homes from Fannie Mae, under a policy announced Thursday.

The government-controlled company, through its new "Deed for Lease" program, will allow borrowers to transfer ownership to Fannie Mae and sign a one-year lease, with month-to-month extensions after that.

The program will "eliminate some of the uncertainty of foreclosure, keeps families and tenants in their homes during a transitional period, and helps to stabilize neighborhoods and communities," Jay Ryan, a Fannie Mae vice president, said in a statement.

But the effort is likely to affect a relatively small number of homeowners. In the first half of the year, Fannie Mae took back about 1,200 properties through this process, known as a deed-in-lieu of foreclosure. That pales in comparison to the 57,000 foreclosed properties the company repossessed in the period.

While neither option is particularly attractive for the homeowner, a deed-in-lieu does less harm to the borrower's credit record.

The rental program is designed to help homeowners who don't qualify for a loan modification under the Obama administration's plan, but still want to remain in their homes. Fannie Mae is not planning to market the homes for sale during the one-year rental period.

Fannie Mae has hired an outside company, which officials declined to identify, to manage the properties.

To qualify, homeowners have to live in the home as their primary residence and prove that they can afford the market rent, which would be determined by the management company. The rent can't be more than 31 percent of their pretax income.

Fannie Mae's sibling company, Freddie Mac, launched a similar effort in March. That policy, however, requires the foreclosure to be complete and only allows month-to-month leases. A Freddie Mac spokesman declined to say how many borrowers have participated.



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This administration has SO gone beyond its Constitutionally granted limitations it is not even funny anymoe. Apparently the change we can believe in is everyone being reducedto ghetto living

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Hmmms ...

And that government goes after the property. Someone mentioned that as part of the end-game last year. Anyone remember who that was?

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you do not want just anyone to respond to that. I think you would like the nay sayer to respond.

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Huh? I don't recall making any comments about owning homes being some government end game.


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Sarcasm.

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This administration has SO gone beyond its Constitutionally granted limitations it is not even funny anymoe. Apparently the change we can believe in is everyone being reducedto ghetto living


Except that the administration does not run Fanny/Freddy...

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I usually try to have some knowledge about the things I post; it helps with the credibility thing...

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U.S. seizes Fannie and Freddie
Treasury chief Paulson unveils historic government takeover of twin mortgage buyers. Top executives are out.

By David Ellis, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: September 7, 2008: 8:28 PM EDT


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Federal officials on Sunday unveiled an extraordinary takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, putting the government in charge of the twin mortgage giants and the $5 trillion in home loans they back.
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The sweeping plan, announced by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and James Lockhart, director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, places the two companies into a "conservatorship" to be overseen by the Federal Housing Finance Agency. Under conservatorship, the government would temporarily run Fannie and Freddie until they are on stronger footing.
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Fannie (FNM, Fortune 500) and Freddie (FRE, Fortune 500), which were created by the U.S. government...

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Vindicarre wrote:
I usually try to have some knowledge about the things I post.


That was snide and uneccessary, Vindicarre.

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U.S. seizes Fannie and Freddie
Treasury chief Paulson unveils historic government takeover of twin mortgage buyers. Top executives are out.

By David Ellis, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: September 7, 2008: 8:28 PM EDT


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Federal officials on Sunday unveiled an extraordinary takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, putting the government in charge of the twin mortgage giants and the $5 trillion in home loans they back.
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The sweeping plan, announced by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and James Lockhart, director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, places the two companies into a "conservatorship" to be overseen by the Federal Housing Finance Agency. Under conservatorship, the government would temporarily run Fannie and Freddie until they are on stronger footing.
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Fannie (FNM, Fortune 500) and Freddie (FRE, Fortune 500), which were created by the U.S. government...


At least for now, the administration seems to have control then. Thank you for pointing that out. I hope in the future you can save the color commentary so that our general mood can remain one of pleasant, cordial discourse.

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This is just not a good idea. The government has no business in the real estate industry being landlords. It's one thing (and still a bad thing) to buy the deeds of illiquid, over-valued property from struggling homeowners. It's entirely another thing to try to retain these assets and now run a business.

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The government has proven that they have no business being in any industry.

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Monte wrote:
That was snide and uneccessary, Vindicarre.


As was trying to call me out without having your facts straight...

But hey why don't we leave the moderation to the moderators holmes.

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I have a name, Darksiege. I don't know why people have difficulty using it. It's not "holmes", or "Sparky". Monte works, or Montegue. But seriously, I'm not going to misuse your name in a way that shows you disrespect, and I certainly hope you are willing to extend the same courtesy.

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Imo, Montegue has a point here. Let's treat him with some respect and see how it goes. Seems to me he is trying, let's meet him somewhere in the middle.


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Vindicarre wrote:
The government has proven that they have no business being in any industry.


Sadly, the same can be said for much of industry.


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Aizle wrote:
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The government has proven that they have no business being in any industry.


Sadly, the same can be said for much of industry.


Indeed, industry has no business being in government... :P

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DFK! wrote:
Aizle wrote:
Vindicarre wrote:
The government has proven that they have no business being in any industry.


Sadly, the same can be said for much of industry.


Indeed, industry has no business being in government... :P




I view it as a chicken/egg argument. Who influenced who first the business or the government?

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I view it as a chicken/egg argument. Who influenced who first the business or the government?


That one is easy... it was the corrupt human who had his hand in both industry and government. :-)

Government and industry would both run perfectly if it were not for all of the fallible humans.

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Uncle Fester wrote:
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Aizle wrote:

Sadly, the same can be said for much of industry.


Indeed, industry has no business being in government... :P




I view it as a chicken/egg argument. Who influenced who first the business or the government?



Easy.


No, really: governments create the legal standards in which companies operate. They create the law that allows corporations and such to exist, so they create the companies. Government therefore came first.

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Trade markets and industry existed before there were governments, and do, without the interference of governments, exist between different types and definitions of government.

Unless you are speaking exclusively to the legal definition of a "Corporation" and industry in general.


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Ladas wrote:
Unless you are speaking exclusively to the legal definition of a "Corporation" and industry in general.


This.

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