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last night: I dreamed that I had was omnipotent and omniscient. I ruled over existence with a firm, but cruel hand.

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I dreamed I was a porn tycoon and I had set up a house where a bunch of girls that wanted to be porn stars lived. I turned it into a reality TV show. The way I would choose which girl was up for a movie is that I would go into her room and throw a beach ball at them and say "You're up!" Towards the end of the dream I went into a girl's room and threw the beach ball at her. She didn't seem thrilled about it and I asked why. She said she thought her vagina was too big and I woke up.

Odd thing is that there was no sex or nudity in this dream, I just seemed to know how everything worked out without it actually happening.

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I don't remember my dreams. What's infuriating is I do remember trying to remember things about the dreams, but always failing. Like I'll remember "the dream I had last night as really **** up" but I won't remember anything about the dream.


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I don't remember my dreams, but I doubt they're very important.


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Xequecal wrote:
I don't remember my dreams. What's infuriating is I do remember trying to remember things about the dreams, but always failing. Like I'll remember "the dream I had last night as really **** up" but I won't remember anything about the dream.


Try keeping a pad of paper and a pen right next to your bed. Back when I was experimenting heavily with dreams, I too found it frustrating when I could not remember an "awesome dream" for whatever reason. I resolved myself that the second I woke up, the first thing I would do is reach for my pen and paper and right down a key word or description from my dream. I found that just something that simple would then bring back the dream in a cascade of memories.

For instance, there was one dream I had that I couldn't remember anything about it. Then I looked at my paper and saw I had written "Parker Lewis" on it. And then suddenly I could start remembering everything (and this will date how long ago it was that I was doing these experiments).

I find that the longer you go after waking the more chance of you forgetting the dream occurs. Usually by the time I'm in the shower it's fully gone, unless I am actively trying to remember it. This is why it's important to write things down the very instant you wake up. And by "wake up" I don't mean "the time you have to get out of bed." I mean the first moment you break from REM sleep.

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Vivid, memorable dreams are indication of the bodies inability to create large pineal melatonin surges while sleeping. Likely, this is due to a circadian irregularity by insufficiently suppressing pineal melatonin during waking hours making it unavailable when sleep takes place. The surest way to suppress melatonin during the day is to be outdoors with your eyes exposed to bright sunlight. This stimulates the ganglion in the retina, causing the pineal gland to go dormant. This will lead to sound, dreamless sleeping.

Conversely, to experience vivid and wildly powerful dreams, simply force your body to have poor melatonin production and circadian synchronization. This leads to awful quality sleep; I haven't slept well in years.

I've had some results of even more abnormally powerful dreams by take oral melatonin (not a sublingual) and had dreams so vivid, they actually seemed to transition into waking life. I'm not sure how oral melatonin would work since it would have to navigate the digestive system and ultimate cross the blood brain barrier. Moreover, the large intestines have its own reserve of melatonin which seem to regulate itself independent of the pineal gland. A guess would be it somehow interfere with natural melatonin production because the effects seem to be terrible sleep, symptomatic of low melatonin sleep.

Try sleeping at all hours of the day and/or taking oral melatonin if you want dreams. Remove tryptophan rich foods from your diet since it is the precursor to melatonin and therefore, serotonin. You could also inhibit tryptophan absorption in the foods you do eat by, ironically, not suppressing pineal melatonin during periods of gestation. I wouldn't suggest doing this long enough to disrupt your natural circadian cycle. Melatonin is a very important and powerful hormone. One of its primary characteristics is it's ability to delay cell division.


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I have on occasion taken oral melatonin (on my Doctors advice) as a sleep aid.

I had some seriously strange dreams.


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No, I don't think she is. I find it amusing that Talya is preparing a case for someone else to be burned at the stake.

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Midgen wrote:
I have on occasion taken oral melatonin (on my Doctors advice) as a sleep aid.

I had some seriously strange dreams.

I take melatonin a lot, but I also rarely remember my dreams. IIRC, there have been a couple of studies that show that melatonin is not very effective for people who sleep at night, while improving sleep time and quality for nightshift workers.

So it could just be that melatonin helps me to maintain a bit more normal circadian rhythm despite staying up all night every night. If it gives me wierd dreams, I'm not remembering them /shrug

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I only remember the last part of this dream... I was with a guy from work, and he led me to a classroom where a couple of Chinese foreigners were waiting. Apparently they'd been promised that they could get the autograph of a famous Japanese voice actress there. When I got there, the guy from work convinced the Chinese guys that I was a substitute for the voice actress, and that I would sign their cards.

So they brought me these Hallmark cards that said things like "true friendship" and "friends forever", and I had to sign them as if I was this voice actress. So I kept writing "love" and drawing hearts and ****, and my handwriting was so bad, and I kept messing up and having to scratch out stuff... I felt so bad doing it. But the two guys looked at me with such excitement; they really believed that I was the equivalent to meeting this person they'd come so far to see.

After I was done, I stormed up to the front of the room and was about to tell off my coworker, but then my alarm went off and I woke up.

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Vivid, memorable dreams are indication of the bodies inability to create large pineal melatonin surges while sleeping. Likely, this is due to a circadian irregularity by insufficiently suppressing pineal melatonin during waking hours making it unavailable when sleep takes place. The surest way to suppress melatonin during the day is to be outdoors with your eyes exposed to bright sunlight. This stimulates the ganglion in the retina, causing the pineal gland to go dormant. This will lead to sound, dreamless sleeping.

Conversely, to experience vivid and wildly powerful dreams, simply force your body to have poor melatonin production and circadian synchronization. This leads to awful quality sleep; I haven't slept well in years.

I've had some results of even more abnormally powerful dreams by take oral melatonin (not a sublingual) and had dreams so vivid, they actually seemed to transition into waking life. I'm not sure how oral melatonin would work since it would have to navigate the digestive system and ultimate cross the blood brain barrier. Moreover, the large intestines have its own reserve of melatonin which seem to regulate itself independent of the pineal gland. A guess would be it somehow interfere with natural melatonin production because the effects seem to be terrible sleep, symptomatic of low melatonin sleep.

Try sleeping at all hours of the day and/or taking oral melatonin if you want dreams. Remove tryptophan rich foods from your diet since it is the precursor to melatonin and therefore, serotonin. You could also inhibit tryptophan absorption in the foods you do eat by, ironically, not suppressing pineal melatonin during periods of gestation. I wouldn't suggest doing this long enough to disrupt your natural circadian cycle. Melatonin is a very important and powerful hormone. One of its primary characteristics is it's ability to delay cell division.



I spent half of my life outdoors, and I've had vivid dreams my entire life. I always generally feel refreshed after sleeping too.

YMMV

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The model isn't quite that simple. Daily retinal (ganglion) exposure to actual sunlight is what effectively suppresses pineal melatonin during waking life leading to large pineal melatonin production during sleep. Short of measuring the actual melatonin levels in the blood circulation and brain extracellular fluid (to see how much melatonin has crossed the blood brain barrier and can effect psychoactive impacts), during periods of awakened activity and sleep, it can't be said for sure that the outdoor exposure one is receiving is enough to fully suppress daytime pineal melatonin. Therefore, the result could still be ineffective melatonin production at night. Moreover, it's not just being outdoors, it's being outdoors with uninhibited retinal exposure to daytime light. Sunglasses, eyeglasses and even contacts can filter out invisible wavelengths of light that the ganglion is most sensitive to: blue light on the order of 450nm wavelength.

Additionally, melatonin levels during sleep aren't sustained. They typically peak and is theorized to be tied to slow wave delta sleep periods. Melatonin production tails off in the later hours of sleep, where it no longer crosses the blood brain barrier and allows the brain to become active. This can allow for active dreaming and it's the body's biological alarm clock. The pineal gland is just an agent evolved to put us to rest when our most perceptive sense, vision, is of limited use to us. It's theorized that's why the pineal gland and ganglion, two seemingly unrelated cellular masses, are linked.

Either way, vivid dreaming could occur. But more than likely, today's modern man simply doesn't receive enough sunlight.

This is also related to another interesting disorder.

You might hear of the "winter blues" and people who need photo-therapy, particularly blue light and not conicidentally, on the order of 450nm wavelength, to deal with emotional disorders such as depression during the winter months. You might also be aware people in the higher latitudes are at a stastically greater likelihood to suffer from similiar emotional disorders. This is theorized to be tied to the same phenomena. During the winter (or at higher latitudes), sunlight strikes the atmosphere at more acute angles and the effect is greater scattering of visible wavelengths of light, removing the critical blue color at low elevations. Since light of this nature is important to suppressing pineal melatonin and therefore strong melatonin production during sleep, this mechanism in the body becomes inhibited from functioning correctly. Melatonin is simply the predecessor of tryptophan (or L-tryptophan species) and the precursor to serotonin a powerful emotional neurotransmitter. When it binds to its neuroreceptor, it's chiefly responsible for sensations of elation and ecstasy. This is how the drug, methelynedioy methamphetamine works, aka Ecstasy. You imagine deprivation of normal levels of serotonin can lead to depression and other mental disorders. The problem with the use of photo-therapy is that the light simply isn't strong enough to mimic actual blue skies lit by sunlight.

Why we evolved an emotional tie to daytime light and blue skies is anyone's guess. The sleep clock is pretty obvious. I might venture a guess to anyone else who has experienced the insanely powerful effect of methamphetamines, such as the frequently prescribed adderall ... or anyone who has tried E. They give you inordinate amounts of mental fortitude and allow you perform incredibly complex mental and physical tasks for hours on end regardless of your state of hunger, physical energy or concentration. Most college students in high pressure departments know at least a few abusers of Adderall. I would guess that we evolved serotonin as a way of finding climates that are more easily habitable and as a way to heighten daytime productivity. Just a guess.

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I had a crazy dream last night....

I have been watching too much Netflix ...

I was being chased through a city on a motorcycle. I was weaving in and out of traffic and going really fast. I came so close to laying the bike down numerous times, but always pulled it off at the last second. Whoever was chasing me never did catch me before I woke up though!

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I always have very vivid dreams within 36 hours of intense 'intimate time'

The dreams are not in any way the event or often even the person I'm with. They're just vivid, detailed and usually involve some fantastic (and surprisingly well plotted out) story.


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