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Micheal
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Perhaps if their business plan didn't involve building locations no further than a quarter mile from the nearest Barnes & Noble, they would have been able to weather the Amazon age better.

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Agreed Kaffis, Border'a screwed up in any number of ways, and now they and their shareholders and employees are paying the price.

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And, at least my local case, the Barnes and Nobles are in better AND cheaper locations! Our Borders is a part of a large shopping mall complex, requiring me to navigate the nightmare mall parking lot complex to get to it.

The Barnes and Nobles is about 1/2 mile from the mall, on the corner of a major intersection, but not within the mall complex, making it easy to jump into and out of parking lot quickly without the "Mall Experience".
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I hope we get a replacement bookstore in the mall. The B&N is down by the campus and I always forget it is there. Maybe they'll have the new Honor book on sale as part of the closeout

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I can't help but wonder why B&N is still kicking while Borders is going the way of the Dodo. Is it because B&N got all the prime locations and Borders ended up getting the closest runner-up sites they could find, were they over-extending, or was it something else entirely?

edit reading a couple of articles on it right now, and one of them suggests that it's all because B&N was quicker to jump on the e-reader bandwagon and Borders outsourced when they finally got on board, instead of developing an in-house product and e-store.

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Can't say I'm sad.
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However, industry insiders say the demise or Borders was both long foreseen and almost inevitable. René Goiffon, president of Harmonia Mundi USA, says his label had decided to stop selling to the chain in July 2010. In Goiffon's words, Borders was "the perfect model of disaster. Basically, in the past few years, they had no idea what to buy or how to buy. So they'd purchase 2000 copies of a title, return 1800 of them, and then the label would be stuck with all this extra, depreciating stock."

Borders' buying patterns also made for fan frustrations, Goiffon asserts. "For years," he notes, "we pushed in vain to get them to target buying geographically: Instead of sending most of their stock to the biggest markets for classical music, such as New York, they'd send four or five copies of each title to every single store they had — so New York would sell out and be stuck, while all those other copies languished in other stores around the country."


I liked Borders better than Barnes & Noble and Books-a-Million, but everything I've read has said they were incredibly poorly managed.
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Their coffee was way worse, too.

Our local borders just seemed to have no consistency in what they'd have in stock- it was always completely hit or miss whether they'd have something or I'd have to order it online.

They also made the mistake of taking out all of the chairs about 5 mos before they went under... It used to be worth it to go, browse, and at least give them a chance to have what I wanted. But then they took out 90% of the seating, and with the hit-or-miss record of stocking anything decent, it wasn't really even worth driving over to check anymore.

Our Borders was one of the ones that liquidated early this year, so at least I did get to pick up a bunch of stuff on sale....

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We'll probably go tomorrow to see if there's any meat to pick from the carcass.
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Visited a couple of Borders locations near home only to find that even with a liquidation sale going on, they've got nothing to offer me.

I don't buy physical books anymore, so their 10%-30% discounts are of no value to me there.
I might have picked up season 3 of True Blood, but it's cheaper at Best Buy.
I might have picked up a copy of Serenity on Blu-ray, but it's cheaper at Best Buy.

Seriously, for a place that's going out of business, they don't seem to be trying very hard to get rid of stock.

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I haven't followed this closely..

Are they compensating people who purchased their e-reader in some way? (pretty sure I know the answer, just curious)...
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They never had an e-reader per se; they partnered with Kobo to be their hardware provider. Kobo has its own service, and Borders kinda-sorta maintained its own e-book service, but a couple of months ago, Kobo just consolidated everything under their own, so you book purchases were just transferred over.
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Shelgeyr wrote:
Visited a couple of Borders locations near home only to find that even with a liquidation sale going on, they've got nothing to offer me.

I don't buy physical books anymore, so their 10%-30% discounts are of no value to me there.
I might have picked up season 3 of True Blood, but it's cheaper at Best Buy.
I might have picked up a copy of Serenity on Blu-ray, but it's cheaper at Best Buy.

Seriously, for a place that's going out of business, they don't seem to be trying very hard to get rid of stock.


I had the same experience when two near my home were liquidating earlier this year. Very sad when 20-40% off is still more expensive than online.
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Ours slowly stepped the prices- it was 10% - 30%, the grew by about 10% per week/per two weeks until they finally closed down.

The other thing that was cheap at our location was all the furniture- they were selling it all off quite inexpensively, if you like anything they had.

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Rorinthas wrote:
I hope we get a replacement bookstore in the mall. The B&N is down by the campus and I always forget it is there. Maybe they'll have the new Honor book on sale as part of the closeout


Which Honor book?
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Yeah, 10-30% off isn't a closeout, that's just a sale. They can't even fail correctly.
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