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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:04 am 
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Khross wrote:
I've read the long version of the bill cover to cover ...

And I wonder why the President wants to demand shift temporary labor by no more than 9 months and call it a massive employment victory.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... on_LEADTop

counter idea, it is a bail out for blue states :)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:13 am 
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Diamondeye wrote:
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Anyone else other than Vindi notice that this "bill" proposes to strip the tax free status from municipal bonds from any investors who earn more than $200k/yr.?

As if munis weren't having enough trouble attracting new investors. Not to mention the effect this will have on the ability of upper-middle class citizens to send their children, who do not qualify for aid, to college.

Poorly thought out, as usual.


On the contrary, it's exceedingly well thought out. If municipalities have a harder time issuing bonds, they'll need more Federal funds, which can have little strings attached. You know, like, "set your DUI limit to X or no highway money for you" type strings.

It's brilliant.


I think the end result (deliberately anticipated by the proposal's authors) is that the "bill" has no chance of being passed as it is, and will bring clarion calls of "do nothing Republicans" and "they're willing to destroy the economy just to make Obama fail". Since the proposed tax code changes have failed to pass resoundingly just recently when the failure to pass could be laid directly at the D's feet, it's a classic poison pill.

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FarSky wrote:
Again, I don't care about the content of the bill...I haven't read it, don't care if it's passed or not, and am pretty resigned to some useless iteration being passed that does nothing but gives both the Democrats and Republican something crow about. But it's like that Rick Perry image in the random pictures thread. Criticize something of note, and don't make **** up.


I guess we've got an impasse then, if you think the proposal was in a form that could be "passed" while Obama was giving his speech, and, while others see that the "bill" was presented to Congress days later, you think they're just making **** up.

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It's certainly rhetoric, but I don't understand the correlation to the point at hand...my point of contention was whomever on the last page complaining that it wasn't written down, blah blah blah.


I thought that since you "just don't like seeing disingenuous bullshit bandied about as unfair criticism", those feelings would extend beyond just comment by one poster.

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