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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:40 am 
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So I was thinking of a book the other day that I read way back in elementary school. I don't think it was meant for that age since it had some pretty risque things in it, but I remember enjoying it. I would like to re read it, the problem is I cannot remember the title. I remember bits and pieces of the plot so I thought I would turn to you guys to see if anyone might have an idea.

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Starts off with a kid, I think he kills someone but ends up on the run

He grows very tall, I think it was over 7 feet

He spends time in a circus/carnival/freak show

He meets a female sword swallower (Him being very large you can see where that goes)

He is dying due to his large size, I know he dies at the end but he dies from something else since he knew his condition would kill him anyway.

I think he eventually had some sort of political/religious importance in the story but cannot remember what it was or even if it was really in the story.

Since I read it in I think 4th or 5th grade it would have been in the 70's

It was just one of those books that stuck with me for some reason, and I would love to know what it was called, so if anyone has any clue, or an idea of where I can search for it. I have tried web searches but nothing has come up and you get some really interesting results searching on sword swallower :o

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Sounds like a bad episode of Heroes :p


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Sounds like an bad episode of Heroes :p

Edited to remove redundancy.

OT: Sorry, dunno. :(


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Could it be the biography of Robert Wadlow?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow

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LadyKate wrote:
Could it be the biography of Robert Wadlow?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Wadlow



No it wasn't a biography it was fictional/fantasy. I want to say he had some kind of power but the details are fuzzy (it has been a lot of years since I read it)

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So parts of it sound a lot like one of Card's series (the Ender's Shadow set), but those are more recent than you're thinking of.

No clue past that, sorry.

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NephyrS wrote:
So parts of it sound a lot like one of Card's series (the Ender's Shadow set), but those are more recent than you're thinking of.

No clue past that, sorry.


Yea I've read those. I remember a tree on the cover of the book, its maddening I can remember a lot of stuff but not the stupid name of it.

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Could it be

Big Fish: A Novel of Mythic Proportions

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Fish-Novel-My ... 0140282777

Some of the details you relate are very similar, some differ, but if you read it as a kid there is a fudge factor on what you are correctly remembering. It was also made into a movie.

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Micheal wrote:
Could it be

Big Fish: A Novel of Mythic Proportions

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Fish-Novel-My ... 0140282777

Some of the details you relate are very similar, some differ, but if you read it as a kid there is a fudge factor on what you are correctly remembering. It was also made into a movie.


I don't think that book was out in the 70's, and the story isn't the same. There was more insidious tones in the plot.

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Mm... the date is wrong, but darned if everything else doesn't match up:

The Man in the Tree by Damon Knight

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The Man In The Tree
by Damon Knight
Berkley, 1984
ISBN: 0-425-06006-3
Cover Illustration by Carl Lundgren
Science Fiction

Impeccably written and thought-provoking, you’ll find yourself asking “is Gene Anderson Christ or the Anti-Christ?”

This book will appeal to: Neil Gaiman fans and sci-fi buffs who enjoy the work of Bradbury.

Buy Now


The Man In The Tree

Gene Anderson discovers he has a talent unlike any other in the world. As such, his childhood should have been a thing of wonder. Instead, he ends up a killer on the run, grows into an eight-and-half-foot giant and lives a queer and uncertain life. As he matures, Gene becomes a poet, a millionaire and even a circus freak. He’s also a prophet. Wherein lies Gene’s greatest problem. Is he Christ or is he the Anti-Christ? Not even Gene can answer that question.

Beginning his disturbing novel with a tell-tale poem, Damon Knight presents the reader with a wonderful gift—if only he or she has the imagination to appreciate it.

“When I was young we were giants’ captives.
They stripped us, tortured us with facecloths,
Left us to endure alone
The moonwashed branches on the windows
In the long clock-ticking night.
We voyaged deep under that black ocean
Where Earth eats her daughters in silence,
And always returned. By day we had red-jam smiles,
Breadcrumb fingers, corn hair.
In our pockets were stones, gray string, nails
Scavenged as we went. We knew the secret
Undersides of things, the roofs of tables.
Only insects were smaller than ourselves.
We caught locusts and made thm spit tobacco,
Poured dust on pismires, puffed ladybirds away.
We dreamed of being smaller still: built pebble fences,
Roads in dirt, peered with one eye
Under green blades. All Eden was
Our afternoon. It was the time before
They taught us time: before we knew.”
- Gene Anderson

I found The Man In The Tree to be a marvelous look at the whole idea of Christ. Knight turns and twists our preconceptions before we even have a hint of what he’s up to. The end disturbs.

This novel is my favourite book of all time. Not ever considered popular and never discussed in his biographies, I consider The Man In The Tree to be classic Damon Knight. He always had something to say, and he wrote with a biting wit that was sometimes humorous, sometimes risque, sometimes wry and, in my opinion, often dark.

Out of print, but still available on sites like Amazon, this is a recommended read.

Clayton Bye
Horror Editor

Copyright © Clayton Clifford Bye 2009


From http://www.thedeepening.com/horror/2009 ... wn-league/

Goodreads link: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1875 ... n_the_Tree

Cover is shown at either link!


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Noggel wrote:
Mm... the date is wrong, but darned if everything else doesn't match up:


From http://www.thedeepening.com/horror/2009 ... wn-league/

Goodreads link: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1875 ... n_the_Tree

Cover is shown at either link!


I think that is it, I could have sworn I read it in the 70's but I guess one decade bled into another. How the heck did you find that? Thanks.

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It was mostly dumb luck! Google search:

"book from the 70s" +carnival +"sword swallower"

Both the first and second terms gave hits for different books. The sword swallower part was distinctive enough to help, though.

Even though "book from the 70s" led me to wrong books, it did lead to a website where people are asking questions just like yours. So despite being wrong in the literal sense, it still led to a helpful resource. Not as strongly dumb luck as it first appears, but... still pretty much dumb luck. :p

Glad I could help!


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Noggel, you rock.

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Killuas wrote:
I guess one decade bled into another.

Lots of folks had that experience in the 70s. Just say "no".

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I guess one decade bled into another.

Lots of folks had that experience in the 70s. Just say "no".



hehe well it is more time than anything else, I was in elementary school in the 70's not many drugs at that level back then. Actually I have never used any illicit drug in my life, which amazes some people for some reason.

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Killuas wrote:
Actually I have never used any illicit drug in my life, which amazes some people for some reason.


Ya didn't miss much. ;)

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Killuas wrote:

hehe well it is more time than anything else, I was in elementary school in the 70's not many drugs at that level back then. Actually I have never used any illicit drug in my life, which amazes some people for some reason.


Yeah, I've never even smoked a cigarette, and I've been drunk maybe 3 times. And people always boggle at me.


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It is kinda strange.

I don't mind alcohol, but I don't drink much. I don't do drugs, and I don't smoke. And people look at me strangely all the time.

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Same with me. I spent 20 year in the Military, never drank, never smoked, not interested in drugs at all..

Not sure why, I've just never been attracted to those things, and in fact, in many ways those habits disgust me (especially smoking and excessive drinking).

When I was living in the barracks, I would walk down the hallway on Friday nights and see people.. individuals or sometimes small groups, huddled around kegs and cases of beer, getting totally smashed. I just remember thinking it was pathetic and kinda felt sorry for them.


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