The Glade 4.0

The Obama Administration has already demonstrated its willingness to use H1N1 for political gain through the confirmation of Kathleen Sibelius, Lydiaa.

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I just watched, erm, was subejcted to, the spoof of that movie.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

I would not wish Meet The Spartans on my worst enemy. You are a brave man, sir.

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Grenade 3 Sports Drink. It's fire in the hole.. Your hole!

Ugh, I'm so sorry man. Even Carmen Electra looks horrible in it.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

It was like a car accident. But with Kevin Sorbo.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Of course it does. Flu spread by contact, especially one with sufficient difference to the regular flu, this makes the swine flu especially contagious due to a lower % of people having immunity.

All the school closing and in Aust free passes to stay home from work if you were sick with symptoms of the flu (not sure if it’s the same over in the US) ensured that the populations were not congregated with those who were sick, thus minimising the spread.

Also keep in mind that by containing the flu to smaller numbers, the health sector is not over whelmed and thus have more resources to spend on those who did catch it. If there were more cases, even though it may not be as deadly as the government portrayed it, the over whelming of health systems will ensure at least more death than it currently is.

Khross I do agree that your government has benefited from this situation. However considering how many czars they’ve been putting through, this was merely an excuse and if it didn’t come along, I’m sure they’ll find other ways.

I have no doubt; but H1N1 has long since ceased to be about Medicine and become a tool of political posturing. If it was a real pandemic, it would be used as the "clarion call" for immediate national health care control.

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It would be interesting to see any statistics on the number of people with healthcare vs the number of people without who were treated for the flu.

However I firmly believe the initial hype across the world helped with keeping the level of transfer to a minimum. Past those initial weeks however, was when it became a political tool. The administration could find other stupid reasons to call for national health care control if it really wanted to, I highly doubt they need a valid reason.

Poor Kevin. I used to love Hercules and watch it all the time. Now he looks terrible. Well not terrible, just tired.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

At least with a car accident... you can hope it is not someone you know who has reached the end...

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Darksiege
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That hasn't got anything to do with awareness. Awareness doesn't give more people immunity.



While true, this also has nothing to do with awareness, nor is it even neessarily helpful since minimizing the spread also reduces the number of people who catch the virus and then develop immunity.



You don't know that the health care systems would have been overwhelmed. Your original statement was that less hype meant less awareness, which meant that the risk of a pandemic rose, but there's still nothing to indicate that even no awareess at all would have resulted in a pandemic, or that it would have overwhelmed health care systems. For any form of flu, the primary treatment is bed rest and avoiding dehydration; you don't need a hospital or clinic for that.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

"Clarion call" is one of those terms right up there with "horriffic" that makes me think anyone using it is being both overly dramatic and lacks any sort of creativity.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Diamondeye:

That's why it's in quotes. Just as bad investment incentives from the Federal Reserve Board are a "clarion call" for regulation of private industry; bad H1N1 management by the CDC and Federal Government are a "clarion call" for government control of all health care.

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That's what I figured. Pretty much any event is a "clarion call" to the left for whatever they want these days. It's basically a sharpshooter fallacy. Take insurance profits. First it was "the greedy insurance companies are killing people by denying them coverage in the name of profit", then when we start finding out they only make 6-8% profit it's "they're inefficient and need to be nationalized!". It's just repainting the bullseye around whatever the data indicates and claiming it supports your position.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."