The Glade 4.0

This year has really done it for me. The bowl system in college football needs to be blown up. LSU vs Alabama? Alabama didn't even win their freaking division, much less their conference. OKState played more ranked teams and teams with a winning record than Alabama. It would have been a great game. LSU's defense against OKState's offense. But no...we'll now be treated to a rematch and another 9-6 game.

And then to continue the farce, Michigan vs VTech. VTech who has play 2 ranked teams. Clemson twice, and GTech. And they lost to Clemson twice, including getting blown out last night. Michigan? Give me a break, they lost to freaking Iowa. So many more deserving teams passed up, so that #11 can take on #13.

Argument: OKU lost to an unranked team next to last game. OKU won against more winning record teams, but 2 of those were only 7-5 teams. OKU and Alabama won against 4 ranked opponents when they played the games. Alabama played 5 ranked teams compared to OKU's 4. OKU played a lot of game where the opponent scored a lot of points on them, barely getting by A&M. Alabama dominated their games they won, leading the nation in fewest points allowed. OKU won their conference, but they don't have to play in a divisional conference like the SEC. Alabama couldn't play for their title, since LSU is in the same conference and division (only one team can go).

As for the other bowls....they are exhibitions. They are decided by contracts, money, and ratings. Rankings don't mean jack anymore.

All that said, I'm pulling for LSU to win. OKU would have been a better match for LSU, since I think LSU would have dominated them. AU scares me. They almost won the first time, and can actually beat LSU on any given day. Both are dominate teams with huge defenses that shut teams down. OKU would have had a hard time scoring on either.

OkState lost to an ISU team taht ALWAYS beats some highly ranked team every year. OkState played them on the road, the same day they found out about the plane crash that killed the women's basketball coach and assistant coach. What 5th ranked team did Alabama play? I see a terrible Auburn team slipped into the top-25 rankings to make it 4. OkState had teams score on them because of the type of offense they run, and how quickly they score. When your average TD drive lasts a minute and 12 seconds, that gives the opponent more chances to score. And everyone barely made it past A&M. A&M is a top 10 team for most of the game, but always chokes it away at the end. I think the graphic I saw said that OkState won by an average of 26 points, and Alabama 29. Both teams dominated most people they played.

You say "they don't have to play in a divisional conference like Alabama". A divisional conference is MUCH easier to win in than a non-divisional, especially when you don't have to play in the conference championship game like Alabama. With a divisional setup you can end up avoiding some of the better teams in the other division (like KU did back in '07 that let them go 10-1). How'd Alabama's game against Georgia go? Oh, that's right, they didn't play them.

You have absolutely no basis for your determination that LSU would have dominated OkState. OkState had a tougher schedule, had better wins, have an incredible offense (how many yards of offense did LSU have in the first half Saturday?). And if you say the words "eye test" I will punch you through the internet. KState was picked to lose SIX of the games we ended up winning. Think about that a sec. KState failed every eye test, it's the scoreboard test that we won. The eye test is freaking useless. OkState-LSU would have been a great matchup between a great defense and a great offense. Now we've got some stupid game that we've already seen before. I don't care about that game at all and I certainly won't watch it. Such a terrible way for such a great year of college football to end.

Sorry, didn't realize this was the rants forum. I was just posting an argument against your points. The last paragraph was purely my opinion on what if, which you are more than welcome to disagree with.

Anyways, continue with your diatribe.

Aegnor:

You should be thanking the Gods that LSU is playing Alabama for the national championship. You don't want to see what that secondary would do to Oklahoma State. If you thought the second half of the Arkansas and Georgia games were lopsided; well, all Oklahoma State can do is throw the ball. The only reason Arkansas and Georgia even had the first halves they did ...

Their running game.

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Sam, I don't get your post. I was just refuting your argument.

Khross, OSU has no running game? They have nearly 400 more rushing yards than Arkansas. Of course they also have 3000 more passing yards than Arkansas, so there's that. It always surprises me the ignorance SEC fans have for any college football played outside the SEC.

I say OSU's great offense would overwhelm LSU's great defense, you say the LSU defense would have stopped OSU's offense. It would have been great to find out who was right.

Oh well, everyone knows LSU and Alabama are the best teams, just like everyone knew Michigan and tOSU were the best two teams back in '06.

Division 1 NCAA Footbal desperately needs to get away from the BCS as a metric for deciding who plays in the National Championship Game, but LSU v Alabama is not the reason why.

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Aegnor:

There's no ignorance here; Oklahoma State's offense would simply cease to against LSU. LSU's defense, particularly their secondary, is simply that good. It's not about SEC bias; it's not about ignorance. OSU doesn't have a running game worth mentioning; they get running yards because of their pass offense. Georgia and Arkansas both get passing yards off their running game.

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How convenient for the SEC that we'll never know if that is the case.

Since the SEC is almighty, why don't we just make it so that the top 2 SEC teams play for the title every year, and not bother with the farce of considering other teams.

We could just have a real playoff system... that'd be nice.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Michigan State losing out to Michigan is a travesty too. ugh. MSU beat U of M....again.

...and WI beat MSU.

I like to think of it as a possible preview of another team from WI owning Lucas Oil Stadium.

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This. I don't even see how the teams can be given ranks when a lot of them don't even play each other.

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A lot of them don't even play college teams every weekend.

Schedule real games, every weekend against ranked opponents, and I might take an "undefeated" record seriously.

But continue touting your team as awesome when you played 4 games against Podunk U (or equivalent) then you can go **** yourself.

**** cupcakes.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Yeah, that's Houston this year. I am so glad they lost. They played absolutely nothing, and them getting a BCS bid would just be wrong.

Meh, I'm cool with the bowl system. College football is not a professional sport. These are unpaid kids. They have exams. They have holidays/winter break.

And if your team isn't undefeated, I'm not going to take your complaints about not being in the championship game too seriously. Yeah, the selection is subjective, but just get over it. It's always going to be subjective. If you want to ensure your team makes it to the BCS championship, win all your games.

Alabama's only loss came against the number 1 (and undefeated) team in the nation....in Overtime. LSU and Alabama were both averaging about 40 points per game, until they played each other. Alabama, like LSU, dominated every team they played, except each other. At one time, the SEC West had the top 3 teams in the nation - LSU, Alabama, & Arkansas. And Arkansas only losses came from Alabama and LSU.

As far as not winning the conference/division, that's not the first time that's happened in the BCS. When LSU won it's first National Championship, they played an Oklahoma team that lost their conference, but they still went to the championship because they had been ranked #1 all year.

Did you watch what LSU's defense did against opponents this year? Everyone likes to say there's a bias towards the SEC, but have you seen what happens when the top SEC teams play teams from other conferences? It's not even close. There's a reason the SEC has won 5 (6 after this year) national championship titles in a row, and it has nothing to do with media bias. LSU and Florida have both made Ohio State look downright foolish, when everyone in the country expected Ohio State to dominate and walk away with the title. Everyone expected Oregon's high paced offense to wear down Auburn's defense and run away with the game, but it wasn't even a contest.



Really? Are you serious?

LSU's schedule & OSU's schedule

Count how many teams each one played that were ranked at the time. I count 8 for LSU vs 4 for OSU, and 3 of LSU's ranked games were against teams ranked in the top 5 at the time (and 2 of those were away games). Whereas OSU only had 2 games against top 10 opponents (#8 and #10). Also, OSU's barely won over A&M (30-29). Oh, and for the record, LSU clobbered A&M in the cotton bowl last year, thanks to a breakout performance by Tyrann Mathieu. And OSU lost to Iowa, who is not only unranked, but they went 6-6 (2-5 vs top 25 opponents).

How in the world can you say OSU had a tougher schedule and better wins? I'm seriously /boggled here.

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I won't berate anyone's opinion on it, since the whole ranking system and BCS is subjective.

I have no dog in this race. I will pull for LSU, since they are closest to me. If you asked me my honest opinion, after watching all 3 top teams, I would say LSU and Alabama are the best two teams in the country. If you asked me who I would rather see, just to put away all doubt, I would say LSU and OSU.

My honest opinion, is LSU would crush OSU by at least 3 TD's. I also think Bama is capable of beating LSU in the bowl game. They should have won the first time they played. It will be interesting to see them play again, because I think no other teams are in their league this season.

This is not SEC bias, since I could care less about football teams and conferences at this point in my life. My old favorite team, Ole Miss, has changed it's culture to the point I quit caring. My local team I've never been a huge fan of, Southern Miss, but do follow them from time to time. I follow local high school football more than college or pros these days.

Some years the strongest teams come from the PAC, or the B12 or B10. Occasionally the ACC or BE will get in it. This season it just so happens that not only one, but two SEC teams are extreme power houses. And to be honest, it's been a long time since I've seen two teams with defense this strong.

I don't take anything away from OSU, as I think they are a very good team. But after watching them I can safely say they are more one dimensional than their SEC brethren. They have a great passing game and can put out lots of points, but I don't think that would translate when playing a strong defense. I will watch their game against Stanford as well.

It's not just about who you lost to. What about who you beat? OSU had a MUCH tougher schedule. They had more wins against the top-25, more wins against the top-50, more wins against teams with a winning record. When you look at the two resumes it isn't even really close. If it really is about who you lost to, then just schedule LSU, and 11 sisters of the blind schools. You'll end up with an 11-1 record, but your loss will be against LSU, so you are all set.



Kansas State University Wildcats beat OU 35-7. Before the game every media pundit said OU was one of the best teams in college football history and that K-State had no chance whatsoever. Darren Sproles and Ell Roberson showed them different. Believe me, I know that game very well, as I am a K-State alum. Also note that OU went on to lose in the national championship.



Yep, everyone said that Ohio State was the best team in the nation. When Michigan had their only loss against Ohio State in a very close game, people said that the two should meet again in a rematch in the national championship game, because they were obviously the best two teams in college football. Everyone said so. But the SEC lobbied, Nick Saban came out and said that any team that didn't even win their conference should play in the national championship. Voters manipulated their votes to avoid a rematch, and Florida slipped in...and crushed Ohio State. And Michigan got crushed by USC in the Rose Bowl. Funny that...

And, yet, you keep arguing that there's some sort of bias. You do understand that LSU played Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida, and South Carolina this year, right? SEC teams rarely have undefeated seasons because SEC teams have to play other SEC teams. If you want to look at "bias" for the SEC, then I give you Vanderbilt to consider.

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Except he's not arguing that LSU should be in the game. Its the Alabama nod that's **** up.

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Holy shitsnacks!

This.

My comment on LSU's schedule was just me crisscossing my argument. Alabama is the one with the weak schedule. I'm just pissed off because now we get some stupid boring rematch which tells us nothing, when we could have had a very interesting LSU vs OSU matchup. I'm also pissed that one of the best conferences (#1 according to the computers, #2 according to the polls) only got 1 BCS bowl, while the Big 10, Pac 12, and freaking weak *** ACC all got 2. I hope the Sugar bowl gets the lowest ratings in the history of BCS bowls this year.

Based on final regular season BCS standings:
- Only 5 teams have had more top 10 finishes than KSU but 27 have been awarded more BCS games
- 14 schools have been invited to more BCS games than they have top 10 finishes
- KSU has 6 top 10 finishes but has only gone to 1 BCS game (and "only" because the BCS had no choice after we beat OK in the Big 12 Championship), the worst treatment of any BCS school.
- KSU has more top 10 finishes than any Big 10 school but Ohio State (yes, including Nebraska)
- KSU has more top 10 finishes than any SEC school but Florida!! That's right, the all mighty SEC that we must not speak of without kneeling on our prayer mats and bowing five times toward Birmingham.
- KSU is ranked higher than five of this year's ten BCS teams

Penn State, Arkansas, Florida, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Southern Miss is a weak schedule?

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Penn St is a decent team. Good defense, but a horrible offense. They would be around 7 or 8 in the Big 12. Florida is a terrible team this year. Auburn is an average team that nearly lost to Utah State, Ole Miss is god awful. Kansas and Ole Miss would be a knock down dragout fight in the toilet bowl. I mean seriously, why did you bring them up in this conversation. If I were you, I would have hoped I forgot all about them like I did for Kansas. Southern Miss is a decent team...that Alabama didn't play.