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It has bugged the hell out of me ever since I came of driving age here. Every time there is the smallest snowfall, most Utah drivers have completely forgotten how to drive in snowy/icy conditions. And if conditions get better and it's been only 2 weeks since the last icy conditions, they will have forgotten how to drive in it all over again.

This video was taken in Bountiful, a city about 15 minutes north of where I live. And it was taken yesterday.

Granted, this man lives on a nasty hill (and I am familiar with that particular hill... biked up it a few times, even). But you'll see that some people are still going way too damn fast down that hill, knowing full well that it's likely icy. This scene is common everywhere in Utah, regardless of the incline of the street, after the "2 week forgetting" snowfall.

The video starts out slow but gets crazier and crazier as time goes on.

Sigh. I learned my lesson at 16 when I spun out in 540 degrees and landed in the highway median. After that, when I see snow I slow the hell down and use my break sparingly. Never had a problem since. That, and turn *into* the slide, people!

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People in general are terrible drivers. This video was **** hilarious to me.

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This is true. But Utah seems to have a special breed. I can always tell when I cross the state border (either way) just based on others' driving.

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I've learned the hard way how to go from a very poor driver to a very good one, from having a couple bad accidents as a teenager that I was completely responsible for, to maneuvering in the ice and snow in a mail truck (which has horrible handling) as an adult.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't want to retire to snow country.

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"Hubcap"

I damn near died right there.

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A couple of them did a pretty good job of losing all traction but keeping it on the road. By the end though there's so much carnage that there's really no hope of that.

can he blame the shakeycam on the snow, too?

That's actually unbelievably slippery. Snow requires driving differently, sure, but some of those cars slid in ways that mere bad driving didn't cause.

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The best winter drivers just know when to stay put.

Cleveland drivers inevitably forget every year too.

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Yeah, that is a pretty bad hill. Maybe not the purest example of why I hate Utah drivers in the snow so much.

The biggest problem I have with Utah drivers in the snow is that most wrecks are caused by losing control after going too fast. Drivers hate going slow and will try to find the perfect balance of stability and speed. But they generally don't find that balance until it's too late.

Combine that with the the inherent selfish attitude of most of these drivers, a strong sense of entitlement, and a refusal to be courteous to others and you have a cocktail that keeps UHP and tow trucks extremely busy on the freeways.

I don't understand why so many drivers here never think ahead. "My exit is coming up in 1 mile. Maybe I should get over now. Naaaaah. I'll wait until the last second." and "This guy slightly in front of me has his blinker on. He wants me to let him in? Me?! How dare he even think of asking such a thing! None shall pass! I am going to speed up so that you cannot come in! Take that, you insufferable peasant!"

A lot of bad driving attitudes, but those two seem to be the majority here. And because of number 2, you get people using blinkers less and less; because obviously using your blinker is more of a detriment to you: the courteous (and, you know, lawful) driver trying to get into the other lane.

Like I said, all of that combined with slick roads = crashes galore.

My personal rule of thumb: if it's icy, my car never goes into anything higher than third gear. Second if it's an extreme condition. And any other drivers that hate it (and there are a lot) they can bite me.

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The crown vic at the end... damn.

Have these people never heard of snow chains? I mean... wouldn't that help?

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Holy shitsnacks!

you can't use snow chains in most cities(they're murder on the roads), and they're not going to help you stop. Well treaded tires and anti-lock brakes will help, but you notice in one shot the car is at a dead stop and sliding off the side of the road sideways into a parallel parked position.

That's well past the point where you shouldn't be on the road AT ALL.

Looks like the people trying to go up my hill in winter. Going down is ok if you go slow but going up you have to go at least 30 or you will be guided by the trenches in the snow of the last car to go off the road. Gotta power through it up the hill just have to wait till it is all clear.

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I loved that parallel parking job at 2:40. Not sure you could pass a driving test with that, though. I also had to rewind and be sure I was seeing the guy's hubcap rolling down the sidewalk.

Thanks, good stuff.

And, ironic, because I nearly lost it in the rain in LA yesterday. Frankly, we have the same problem here with rain - it happens so infrequently, that no one knows how to deal with it. I was on a freeway transition, going more slowly than I normally would, but still just a few MPH too fast. Let's hear it for AWD (and a lesson learned and hopefully remembered).

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Wow. Apparently that video made not only all kinds of local news, but Jimmy Kimmel as well.

http://abc.go.com/watch/jimmy-kimmel-li ... l-live-123

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