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Santorum suspends campaign, clearing Romney's path

Washington (CNN) -- Conservative challenger Rick Santorum announced Tuesday that he is suspending his Republican presidential campaign after a weekend of "prayer and thought," effectively ceding the GOP nomination to front-runner Mitt Romney.

Santorum made his announcement after the weekend hospitalization of his 3-year-old daughter Isabella, and in the face of tightening poll numbers in Pennsylvania -- the state he represented as a U.S. senator -- ahead of the April 24 primary.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we made the decision to get into this race around our kitchen table, against all the odds," Santorum told a news conference, flanked by emotional family members. "We made a decision over the weekend that while the presidential race for us is over, and I will suspend my campaign effective today, we are not done fighting."

The development means Romney is now the certain GOP nominee to take on President Barack Obama in November, as Santorum was his main challenger. While Romney still needs to win several hundred delegates to clinch the nomination, Santorum's departure from the race leaves his path unhindered.

Sources said Santorum called Romney before his announcement, and the two could meet soon. One source indicated Romney wanted Santorum's endorsement, but there was no indication that would happen after what has been a tough and at times bitter campaign.

Santorum could be a valuable ally for Romney by helping deliver the party's Republican base, which harbors some distrust of the conservative credentials of the former Massachusetts governor.

However, Santorum has consistently said the party needed a true conservative candidate -- himself -- to defeat Obama, and he has relentlessly attacked Romney's support for health care reforms in Massachusetts that included a mandate for coverage similar to the 2010 federal health care law despised by conservatives.

"Sen. Santorum is an able and worthy competitor, and I congratulate him on the campaign he ran," Romney said in a statement. "He has proven himself to be an important voice in our party and in the nation. We both recognize that what is most important is putting the failures of the last three years behind us and setting America back on the path to prosperity."

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, another GOP contender trailing well behind Romney and Santorum, also congratulated Santorum for a "remarkable campaign" that showed the appeal of conservative principles.

Both Gingrich and the other challenger, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, said they intended to stay in the race to the Republican convention in August.

"I humbly ask Sen. Santorum's supporters to visit Newt.org to review my conservative record and join us," Gingrich said in a statement. "We know well that only a conservative can protect life, defend the Constitution, restore jobs and growth and return to a balanced budget."

Shortly after Santorum's announcement, the Gingrich website appeared to have crashed, though the reason wasn't known.

Santorum advisers said the final decision to suspend the campaign, which allows him to keep control of delegates won so far, came Monday night and was based on three factors.

Santorum needed the Texas primary on May 29, with 154 delegates at stake, to be winner-take-all instead of the proportional allocation based on vote results now in place. However, a complex process for changing the allocation method made that unlikely, they said.

In addition, Santorum needed to win Pennsylvania, which remained possible but would require large amounts of time and money against an expected Romney offensive there, the advisers said. In addition, they said Santorum needed Gingrich to step aside so Santorum could bring together the conservative right, but Gingrich stayed in the race.

Santorum had canceled two events earlier Tuesday while adding an afternoon event that turned out to be his withdrawal announcement.

Hogan Gidley, the campaign's communications director, said the two morning events were canceled to allow Santorum and his wife, Karen, to "settle in at home" with their young daughter.

Known as Bella, the child was born with Trisomy 18, a serious chromosomal condition that interferes with development. Half of patients with the condition do not survive past the first week of life, according to the National Institutes of Health.

Santorum mentioned Bella several times in his comments, saying he was inspired by people who cited the need to speak up for people with disabilities and others being marginalized by the nation's present direction and problems.

Santorum: The 'race for us is over'

"Against all odds we won 11 states, millions of voters, millions of votes," Santorum said, adding he found a "deeper love for this country" through the campaign.

"It was a love affair for me going from state to state and seeing the differences but seeing the wonderful, wonderful people of this country who care deeply about where this country is going in the future, who care deeply about those who are out there paddling alone who are feeling left behind and in some respects are feeling hopeless and want to do something," he said.

Meanwhile, a poll Tuesday shows Romney trailing Obama in a head-to-head matchup, though voters remain split on which presidential contender is best equipped to handle the economy.

The survey, from Washington Post/ABC News, showed 51% of Americans would choose Obama if the election were held now, compared to 44% for Romney.

According to the polling data, Americans are divided on which candidate would best handle economic issues: Forty-seven percent favored Romney while 43% named Obama. When asked which man would be better at creating jobs, 46% named Obama and 43% said Romney. Both margins were within the poll's 3.5 percentage point sampling error.

Voters were less divided on other key issues. Fifty-three percent said Obama was best poised to handle international affairs, compared to 36% who said Romney. Conversely, when asked which man would do a better job of reducing the federal deficit, 51% said Romney and 38% said Obama.

In terms of likability, Obama held a clear advantage, with 64% of Americans polled saying the president was a more friendly and likable person, a nearly 2-to-1 advantage over Romney, who was at 26%.

The serious gender gap between the two candidates -- also seen in recent Gallup and CNN/ORC polls -- also appeared in the new poll. Obama had the support of 57% of women, compared to 38% who said they backed Romney, while the former Massachusetts governor had the backing of 52% of men, compared to 44% who backed Obama.

Among another important voting block, independents, the poll shows a much tighter race, with 48% backing Romney compared to 46% for Obama, also within the survey's sampling error.

Romney has used a huge advantage in money and organization to build his lead over Santorum, Gingrich and Paul. In particular, the Romney campaign and the super PAC supporting it have spent millions of dollars on negative ads in the run-up to major primary and caucus votes so far.

Gingrich admitted Sunday that Romney was the likely nominee.

"I think you have to be realistic," Gingrich said on "Fox News Sunday." "Given the size of his organization, given the number of primaries he's won, he is far and away the most likely Republican nominee."

CNN's latest estimate of the GOP delegate tally shows Romney with 659, Santorum with 275, Gingrich with 140 and Paul with 71. It takes 1,144 delegates to clinch the nomination.

New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island and Delaware vote on April 24, in addition to Pennsylvania. In all, 231 delegates are up for grabs in the five states.

The goal now for Gingrich and Paul is to prevent Romney from reaching the 1,144-delegate threshold before the convention.

While all but conceding the GOP race, Gingrich said Sunday he won't give up on trying to influence the party's platform that emerges going into the general election.

"I think platforms matter in the long run in the evolution of the party," the former House speaker said. "And the party is more than just a presidential candidate -- it's Senate candidates, House candidates, state legislators."

Gingrich also said he has already talked to Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus about working in the fall "to help defeat Obama any way I could -- whatever the team thinks I can do to be helpful, I would do."

Beyond that, he said he wouldn't want to serve in a Romney administration and would rather "go back to a post-political career."


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Thank you Jesus for convincing Santorum to drop out.

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Yes, because we should select a nominee before half the people get to vote.

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You guys act like Obama has a chance to not get elected.

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Maybe now Googling "Santorum" will result once again in something less disgusting. Like frothy anal goop.


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This thread title made me lol

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Yes, because we should select a nominee before half the people get to vote.


I think we should have a primary process where all of the primaries are held on one day. This ****'s too spread out.

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Maybe now Googling "Santorum" will result once again in something less disgusting. Like frothy anal goop.


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This thread title made me lol


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This thread is funny ...

We have a president who openly and repeatedly disrespects the Supreme Court ... no one cares.

We have a president who's biased the most important court decision since the Civil War ... no one cares.

We have a president who makes Newt '****' Gingrich look honest ... no one cares.

We have a bad demagogue that would make Commodus proud, and you guys are worried about the false populism and political theatre as if we don't have a monoparty.

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That's not really "funny-haha."

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Santorum is out because he was unacceptable to a large enough percentage of the Republican half of the party, and he wasn't bringing in enough of the Catholic vote from the Democratic half of the party.

I'm registered Modern Whig now. Hopefully my mail box won't fill up this election.

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I'm wondering how the Republicans can ever put up a real candidate again when so much of their party is split up into two groups (the Tea Party libertarian types and the social conservative neocons) that absolutely hate each other and agree on absolutely nothing except guns.


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Xequecal wrote:
I'm wondering how the Republicans can ever put up a real candidate again when so much of their party is split up into two groups (the Tea Party libertarian types and the social conservative neocons) that absolutely hate each other and agree on absolutely nothing except guns.


The rift being seen is the younger ideals finally being forced to the top as the membership shifts. The old guard is dying off, key positions are now becoming occupied by younger members etc.

For me, unless Ron Paul goes to the big show, I feel that id have to vote against the Republican party. The only way they will "get the message" is after all this money spent, they get destroyed in the presidential election for putting up such a wishy washy candidates. If that's underscored by fiscal conservative /social liberal candidates winning.... maybe, just maybe they will get it.

Winning the presidency would be a Pyrrhic victory for Republicans. Shoot the half court shot at it but concentrate on local, House and Senate races.

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Hannibal wrote:

For me, unless Ron Paul goes to the big show, I feel that id have to vote against the Republican party. The only way they will "get the message" is after all this money spent, they get destroyed in the presidential election for putting up such a wishy washy candidates. If that's underscored by fiscal conservative /social liberal candidates winning.... maybe, just maybe they will get it.


Yes, because that worked so well in 2008 or 1996 for that matter. Do you really feel that Romney wouldn't be better than Obama? He wouldn't be everything we wanted but with Obama's open disdain for the other two branches of government we can't play punish the party games right now. Even if we got everything we wanted from the house and the Senate (Mandel for Senate!), our current President has shown he's willing to executive order, regulate and pretty much ignore the courts and congress to get his way.

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Xequecal wrote:
I'm wondering how the Republicans can ever put up a real candidate again when so much of their party is split up into two groups (the Tea Party libertarian types and the social conservative neocons) that absolutely hate each other and agree on absolutely nothing except guns.

They could always go the route of the Democrats (an extremely fragmented party) and just lie to everyone about what you will do when elected. It worked for Obama.

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I would also argue that many of the people in the Tea Party are socially conservative, but it is not their defining issue as a whole. Or rather they themselves are socially conservative, but they aren't interesting in pushing that agenda on anyone else. That's my experience in talking to such people.

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That's my experience in talking to such people.

I'm sorry, I don't think you understand how this thing works. You don't judge things based on your own experience, and certainly not by listening to what they say and asking them questions.

You watch your 24 hour news media of choice, and then think what they tell you to think. Don't make me have to inform on you as a troublemaker...

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Definitely, but you have to play the hand you are dealt. We had high hopes for Not Romney coming into the game. So the question is do we take our ball and go home or do we realize what are choices really are and function in reality.

There may only be a marginal difference between Obama and Romney, but sometimes the trajectory of a bullet by a few centimeters can save your life.

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You don't have a choice. Choice is an illusion. It's a false dilemma that makes you feel better about the mechanism that and apparatus that drive your life. If you want to make a choice, actual choice requires violence.

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If you believe Romney would be a better president than Obama, vote for Romney.

If you believe that Obama would do a better job than Romney, vote for Obama.

If you believe your vote/conscience/shoulder cricket would be better served by voting for a non-establishment candidate, vote for that candidate.

If you opt for negativity and a belief that no matter your vote, it won't change/improve anything, just stay home and relax.

This isn't rocket science, and it's not an issue over which to go to war. Hell, it's not even a big freaking deal.


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It actually is a big deal, but not because I fear the stupidity of our president or any establishment candidate. There are other things at work here; it's not happy, and I really, really hate having to quote Jean Baudrillard, because someone is sure to tell me I'm not quoting something that predates the Wachowski brothers' piece of ****:
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