The Glade 4.0

Ouch!

1. I am glad the Packers lost.
2. That was an INT.

Someone screwed the pooch.

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Don't know how Tate's "hands" can be inside Jennings' when one of them was on his wrist:





and then, in front of his helmet:



Heheh, and Tate has a career in politics waiting for him.
Reporter: "Did you push off?"
Tate: "I don't know what you're talking about."


Phantom Roughing the Passer that negates an INT
Blatant Offensive PI that's called as Defensive PI
Offensive PI that's not called (which it usually isn't in Hail Mary situations, but that was BLATANT)
INT called as Reception

All on the final drive.

The refs **** the Packers, and the Packers still had enough class to come back out on the field for the "extra point".

In the end, it's a W for Seattle; that's what is going in the books. Not much to do about it.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Not hard to see why one ref would call this a TD, depending on which side he was on.

Simultaneous possession...



Remember, this is a judgement call, ties goes to the offense, and it IS NOT REVIEWABLE..

All of this slow mo and screen cap analysis doesn't mean anything. The call that was made in real-time on the field was not blatantly wrong...

And Re: the penalties and non-penalties.. they went both ways the entire game.

If Green Bay want's to blame someone for this loss, try blaming your offensive line, who gave up 8 sacks to a four man rush in the first half, and only had 87ish yards of total offense.

Simultaneous possession of Jennings' wrist?

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

No, the ball, both of his hands are on the ball...

Midgen... omg... did you look at Vindi's pictures? Seriously.

I did..

You don't have to have both hands on the ball for it to be a catch (search youtube for one hand catches if you've never seen one)

As long as you can make any argument that Tate has the ball, then it HAS to be a touchdown. The defensive player having 'more' or 'better' possession DOES NOT MATTER! If the offensive player has possession of the ball, by rule, it's a catch.

There is no point in any video where Tate does not have at least one hand on the ball. The ball never touches the ground.. It HAS to be a catch!

SEE! Tate STILL has the ball! :p

It was indeed a catch. By Jennings.

Well, I think it's obvious, the BOTH caught the ball...

The only way you could argue that it wasn't a Touchdown, is if you can argue that Tate DIDN'T catch the ball, and you CAN'T, because HE DID!

ZING!

I'll concede that if the Pass Interference had been called on Tate, like it should have, the Packers would have won that game.

I won't concede that Tate didn't catch the ball.

There were a lot of bad calls and non-calls on both sides though. Any one of which could have turned the game.

STAY CLASSY GREEN BAY !!

Looks like lots of NFL players see it the same way:
http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2012-art ... -riot.html

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

It's a good thing they aren't referee's then, isn't it..

ZING!

I am not a big fan of either team; But, I have to agree with Midgen. From the touch of the football to the initiation of the ref’s signal, not one player has control over the ball. In my opinion, when they both initially are "down", control hasn’t been obtained by either player. Therefore, the tie goes to the offensive player.

But I have to admit, there were missed calls at the end of the game with regards to roughing the passer and pass interference X 2. If these calls were properly made, the outcome could have been influenced. That being said, it is not like the Packers got the wrong end of the deal the whole night. Both teams received benefits from some borderline calls.

The Seahawks should count their blessings that they got by a good team. The Packers need to man up, and realize the main reason they lost is because they played less than adequate. If they would have taken care of business, they wouldn’t have been in that position.

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Such a simple concept, yet so true; that which we manifest is before us; we are the creators of our own destiny. Be it through intention or ignorance, our successes and our failures have been brought on by none other than ourselves. - Enzo, The Art of Racing in the Rain.

Its a publicly available number for NFL anyways, not like its Goodell's personal cell.

The "Stay Classy" comment was a general reference to the behavior of the Green Bay team and their fans, mostly on social media.

Some of the tweets that were sent to Seahawks players were inappropriate, and in some cases, down right threatening...

I'd be upset too, but being an ******* isn't going to change anything, and you'll still be an *******...

The new refs are not worse than the old refs. They just call different penalties versus ignoring others. They are far more likely to enforce holding than the old refs, equally likely to call pass-interference and less likely to call roughing/unsportsmanlike penalties.

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The Packers stayed classy. Not only did eleven guys suit up and come back for the extra point, McCarthy was absolutely superb in his postgame press conference. He said he wasn't going to answer questions about the officials, and to another question, mentioned that he wasn't going to create any drama.

Could they have had a better first half? Absolutely. Their offense was awful. (Their defense looked spectacular though). But after their halftime adjustments, the Packers completely dominated the second half, in playtime, number of plays, and yardage.

There were retarded calls on the last few Seahawks drives to even put the Seahawks in that scoring position (Interception called back for "roughing the passer" when someone's momentum made them lightly bump Wilson's ankles after the pass?) (Unnecessary roughness on #25? Would that be Ryan Grant or Dorsey Levens?) (Defensive pass interference when there was no contact except the reciever who was draped over the CB?)

That said, I haven't heard anyone on the TV, radio, or internet who thinks that was a catch on the part of the Seahawks outside of this thread. I'm not sure if there's some trolling going on, or if folks really think "having one hand on the side of the ball" counts as possession now. Even if Tate had control of the ball, the simultaneous possession rule would apply if they both touched the ball at the same time. There's a stipulation for when one player catches it and then (in sequence) another player tries to wrest it away. This was a clear cut mistake, and it determined the outcome of a game.

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Just left a voicemail with Mr. Goodell.

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Seattle newspaper writers getting death threats...

Also, little known fact. The replay official who made the final decision was NOT a replacement... He's a full time NFL employee.. same guy would have made this call if the 'real' refs were in place...

The final decision was already made, though. All he could decide is if the ball hit the ground, or someone was out of bounds. The issue wasn't the guy under the hood. (Although it seems that rule needs a change. Officiating should be transparent to the point that with the proper tools - instant replay for one - there should be a way to overturn an incorrect call on the field.)

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