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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:10 pm 
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Lone Star state to int’l poll watchers: Be ready for some Texas justice
posted at 12:41 pm on October 26, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), an international organization that works with the United Nations and takes it upon itself to promote the causes of human rights, freedom, and fair elections, has often monitored the election processes in various countries — and in horribly corrupt and even violent places like Sudan or Uganda or Nicaragua, I think everyone can agree that those definitely sound like some admirably spent resources.

Why the organization should decide to divert any of their resources towards monitoring the United States’ elections, when there are so many egregious human-rights violations elsewhere in the world, is a little more mysterious — but it becomes less so when it’s at the behest of certain liberal interest groups. The OSCE started sending poll watchers in 2002, but this year, they plan to deploy a 57-ambassador strong “election observation mission” to various locations around the U.S.

Texas, anyway, doesn’t seem to find the motive behind the election-monitoring all that mysterious. They’re wondering if the OSCE’s interest mightn’t have something to do with various states’ efforts to crack down on voter fraud with voter ID laws (or, as certain circles deceptively refer to them, “disenfranchisement,” “intimidation,” and/or “suppression” of poor or minority voters). In a letter to the State Department, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott reminded the organization that the United States is a nation of laws and that their ostensibly noble goals do not mean that they are above letter of Texas law, via Fox News:

“The OSCE may be entitled to its opinions about Voter ID laws, but your opinion is legally irrelevant in the United States,” Abbott wrote in a letter this week to the OSCE.

He went on to remind representatives that they are not allowed to enter a polling place, and cautioned against going within 100 feet of the entrance. “Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE’s representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law,” he wrote.

The letter touched off a flurry of testy tweets and correspondence that brought in Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to play ref. Janez Lenarcic, director of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights, fired off a letter to Clinton to complain — which was followed by a letter from Abbott to Clinton reiterating his concerns.

“The threat of criminal sanctions against OSCE/ODIHR observers is unacceptable,” Lenarcic said in a statement. “The United States, like all countries in the OSCE, has an obligation to invite ODIHR observers to observe its elections.”

Texas is not impressed.

No UN monitors/inspectors will be part of any TX election process; I commend @txsecofstate for swift action to clarify issue.

— Rick Perry (@GovernorPerry) October 23, 2012

UN-related vote monitors warn Texas: Don’t mess with us. My response: BRING IT. Official letter to follow reut.rs/WK2dj0

— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) October 25, 2012

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Yeah, big surprise from Texas. So glad I don't live in that **** up state anymore.

What's hilarious is how those quotes from the officials there sound just like the ones from repressive regimes around the world.


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What is **** up about enforcing your own laws?


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Waaaaaiiit...I thought Republicans were all about cracking down on voter fraud. Shouldn't they welcome 'em with open arms?


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Nothing. Not allowing international observers to observe when it's part of an international agreement is.

Should be interesting to see how this plays out.


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Where were they when a man as standing outside a polling place tapping a club in his hands and shouting at voters.

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Where were they when a man as standing outside a polling place tapping a club in his hands and shouting at voters.

A "red State," clearly.

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I don't mind "observers" referees are another issue.

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FarSky wrote:
Waaaaaiiit...I thought Republicans were all about cracking down on voter fraud. Shouldn't they welcome 'em with open arms?


I'm not a Republican, but I'll play, since I have a strong disdain for voter fraud, regardless of who is doing it.

I don't have a problem with organizations 'observing' elections, as long as they do it in accordance with the laws of the state they are observing in.

If you break the law, you get arrested.

If you don't like the law, contract your lawmakerperson and suggest changing it.

Edit: Don't come to our Country, or our State, and expect special treatment, just because you hold yourself in high regard. If you break the law, expect to be arrested.


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There are likely no blue states on the proposed list of observation sites, only red states.

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FarSky wrote:
Waaaaaiiit...I thought Republicans were all about cracking down on voter fraud. Shouldn't they welcome 'em with open arms?


Probably not, since it's patently obvious they are only there for the purpose of finding fault with states likely to go with Romney.

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Khross wrote:
There are likely no blue states on the proposed list of observation sites, only red states.



http://www.inquisitr.com/371778/un-back ... -election/

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“On behalf of the undersigned organizations committed to supporting and expanding the civil and human rights of all Americans, including the right to vote, we write regarding the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe’s plans to monitor the upcoming presidential election, and to follow up on a meeting you conducted in April with representatives from the NAACP, League of Women Voters, and others, where concerns were raised about recent efforts to suppress the vote of many Americans in the upcoming election in November 2012. Election observation is an important function of our democratic process and serves as an additional means of protecting the rights of those who are most likely to be disenfranchised and least able to advocate for their right to vote. To that end, we believe it is particularly important that safeguards, including election monitoring, are in place in key areas around the country, and believe your presence would be particularly critical in districts in Colorado, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Texas, Virginia and Wisconsin.”


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Am I the only one who sees this as just a stupid publicity stunt done by an organization that's desperate to prove that they're relevant? This is like when Human Rights Watch complains about every single country in the world.


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In other words, they only want to observe states Europeans see as symbols of Americans being bacwards and not doing things the "right" (i.e. European) way and swing states. So no, no Blue states. Wisconsin could have been, but now it's contested.

The entire point of this is to get alledgedly "neutral" human-rights organizations that hate the American right in here to create allegations of "vote suppression."

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Xequecal wrote:
Am I the only one who sees this as just a stupid publicity stunt done by an organization that's desperate to prove that they're relevant? This is like when Human Rights Watch complains about every single country in the world.

My gut reaction too. That and some Frenchman wants to fart in my general direction.

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Texas and Pole Dancers would be a more entertaining thread.

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FarSky wrote:
Waaaaaiiit...I thought Republicans were all about cracking down on voter fraud. Shouldn't they welcome 'em with open arms?


You're interested in doing a high-quality whatever at your job, right? Would you therefore appreciate someone coming into your office and looking over your shoulder to ensure you perform high-quality work, in their view?


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Poll watchers are not there to look for vote fraud. Ostensibly, they're there to make sure the poll workers are run according to the rules. In reality, they're there to make sure that irregularities are found, and that those irregularities favor the candidate that Europe says they want.

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If the left is adamant that voter fraud isn't a concern, then there shouldn't be a need for these poll watchers.

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Voter fraud can't occur by the action of liberal Democrats and their voter. Conservative Republicans and their voters will fraud like a mother ****.

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Voter fraud can't occur by the action of liberal Democrats and their voter. Conservative Republicans and their voters will fraud like a mother ****.


Just like black people can't be racist.

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Voter fraud can't occur by the action of liberal Democrats and their voter. Conservative Republicans and their voters will fraud like a mother ****.


Just like black people can't be racist.


Yea, well they can't.

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