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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:25 am 
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My new manager is trying to move me to be with the new team (in the same building on the same floor). I have refused. I might lose my job over this... we'll see what happens. Or it could work out fine. But I'm not giving it up.


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I got moved from my window-view cubicle.

I am getting a new one soon, though. Yay!

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I haven't had a window cube since 2004 or so. Fortunately my job allows me to work remotely fairly often, and I have cause to walk between two buildings often enough that I wouldn't consider not having a window cube worth losing my job over.

We also have a laaarge break room area that has very large windows that are great for getting some sun.

Hey Lex, just use the new non-window cube as an excuse to take more breaks and go outside.


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It's ok, I'll just be autistic about this and lose my job over it. If they want to take my window seat away, I guess they don't want me as an employee.


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they'll have to dismiss you, simply because it undermines their authority. It won't be about the seat, it will be about general perception.


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they'll have to dismiss you, simply because it undermines their authority. It won't be about the seat, it will be about general perception.


If that's the way it is, then that's how it'll be. Maybe it just wasn't meant to be. Employment is a voluntary contract.

On the other hand, maybe I'll be able to keep the window seat.

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I won this seat fair and square in an office lottery. I'm never giving it up. I would rather be unemployed.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
I won this seat fair and square in an office lottery I hax'd an office lottery for this seat, therefore I'm smarter and most deserving. I'm never giving it up. I would rather be unemployed.


FTFY!

Sorry Lex... couldn't resist :D


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Midgen wrote:
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I won this seat fair and square in an office lottery I hax'd an office lottery for this seat, therefore I'm smarter and most deserving. I'm never giving it up. I would rather be unemployed.


FTFY!

Sorry Lex... couldn't resist :D


Well if you consider pulling a piece of paper out of a hat as hacking, then yeah. I smiled though. Good joke.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
I won this seat fair and square in an office lottery. I'm never giving it up. I would rather be unemployed.


Your priorities are whacked.

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Stick to your guns, they won't fire you over something so derp.

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Is this your boss?

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Stick to your guns, they won't fire you over something so derp.


You'd be surprised.

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Müs wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
I won this seat fair and square in an office lottery. I'm never giving it up. I would rather be unemployed.


Your priorities are whacked.


Well I have to risk my life every day by driving to work. I am certainly not a good enough driver. So honestly it isn't worth it to keep working here if they are going to take stuff away from me like this.


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Müs wrote:
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Stick to your guns, they won't fire you over something so derp.

You'd be surprised.

They might be looking to fire him for some other reason, but can't do it legally due to being an equal opportunity employer.

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Stick to your guns, they won't fire you over something so derp.

You'd be surprised.

They might be looking to fire him for some other reason, but can't do it legally due to being an equal opportunity employer.



I think this is unlikely. I think Hopwin is probably correct. But I don't know for sure.

I could be randomly laid off anyways, due to corporate restructuring, so there's always that too.


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If you took them to court over firing you for refusing to move seats I am pretty sure no one would consider it "with cause" in such a liberal state.

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If you took them to court over firing you for refusing to move seats I am pretty sure no one would consider it "with cause" in such a liberal state.


I would. Its insubordination, plain and simple.

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Müs wrote:
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If you took them to court over firing you for refusing to move seats I am pretty sure no one would consider it "with cause" in such a liberal state.


I would. Its insubordination, plain and simple.


I work for my company, not my manager. So in my opinion, it is not insubordination.


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Sorry Lex, it is.

This is a bad move. If you feel you can do better elsewhere, go now. Otherwise work within the system. Find justification in company rules for your stands. If it gets to be too oppressive for you, quit and follow your success quickly to your next position.

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Sorry Lex, it is.

This is a bad move. If you feel you can do better elsewhere, go now. Otherwise work within the system. Find justification in company rules for your stands. If it gets to be too oppressive for you, quit and follow your success quickly to your next position.


It's ok if it's a bad move if I get to keep my spot by the window.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
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If you took them to court over firing you for refusing to move seats I am pretty sure no one would consider it "with cause" in such a liberal state.


I would. Its insubordination, plain and simple.


I work for my company, not my manager. So in my opinion, it is not insubordination.


And your Manager also works for your company, and is the boss of you.

Its textbook insubordination.

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Müs wrote:
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If you took them to court over firing you for refusing to move seats I am pretty sure no one would consider it "with cause" in such a liberal state.


I would. Its insubordination, plain and simple.


I work for my company, not my manager. So in my opinion, it is not insubordination.


And your Manager also works for your company, and is the boss of you.

Its textbook insubordination.


Even if you're right, that's ok, because my purpose in life isn't to intentionally do stupid things.


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I would. Its insubordination, plain and simple.


I work for my company, not my manager. So in my opinion, it is not insubordination.


And your Manager also works for your company, and is the boss of you.

Its textbook insubordination.


Even if you're right, that's ok, because my purpose in life isn't to intentionally do stupid things.


And yet...

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It is currently a stalemate, where I am remaining in my cube with the window view. A stalemate for a long enough time will ensure victory for me.


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I hope you do get fired, because you need to learn that you're easily replaceable and there are more developers than you can count that don't give a **** about windows.


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