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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:12 pm 
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Looks pretty cool.

I'm interested.... Although I wonder how much it will end up costing.

Definitely a different design path, though, with the focus on external expansion via Thunderbolt 2.

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Lol the new Mac is literally a garbage can? LOL

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I know right.

The tech specs are pretty damn awesome but that form factor....

I wonder how much its going to cost. I'm gonna say north of 5k.

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I think it's a brilliant form factor. It only requires a few modifications to have your own R2 unit.

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If it had a different shape, it probably couldn't have those technical specifications. That shape isn't to look hip and sleek, it's to sink heat.

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The heat sink design is really, really cool. Literally.

But yeah, I'm betting we see R2 modded case stands before it's been out a week.

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If it had a different shape, it probably couldn't have those technical specifications. That shape isn't to look hip and sleek, it's to sink heat.


Nonono, its to sink mad buckets in office trashball. ;)

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http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/index2.html

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Except that it's not supposed to rack. It's for going on your desk, or underneath your desk. Key elements of that design are going to push forward system performance because you vent heat much better. Thermal runaway is a big problem for high-powered machines. That's why water cooling got so popular with people who style themselves as l33t modders, despite the fact that piping water through several thousand dollars worth of electronic equipment is **** retarded.

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Also, I think it bears mentioning, the professionals that Apple caters to are not IT professionals.

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It really is a great design. I would have preferred 90 degree edges, but the amount of power they've got in such a small footprint is really pretty impressive.


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The lack of 90 degree edges is exactly what led me to believe it was for heat flow before I read the article. Heat is flowing radially inward and being shot up the core and out of the system. If you had a rectangular base, the heat in the corners takes longer to make its way to the exhaust pipe. That slows down your rate of cooling.

What I didn't (and couldn't) see until Farsky's link is that everything is mounted onto the same heat sink. That level of coordination between devices isn't something that you're going to be able to do in your basement. What we're seeing here is that do-it-yourself upgradeability is at odds with system performance.

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Corolinth wrote:
What I didn't (and couldn't) see until Farsky's link is that everything is mounted onto the same heat sink. That level of coordination between devices isn't something that you're going to be able to do in your basement. What we're seeing here is that do-it-yourself upgradeability is at odds with system performance.

Upgradeability is at odds with efficiency. You can still throw more cooling than would otherwise be necessary at the problem, if you don't mind increased volume and noise.

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Except that heat has been an ever-present problem in computer design. Improvements in heat flow efficiency have a direct impact on improvements in performance. Apply that heat flow architecture to a device twice its size. What do you now have to do to send it into thermal shutdown?

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Please let the answer be "Set it on fire"

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shuyung wrote:
Please let the answer be "Set it on fire"

I might buy an Apple PC if it's constantly on fire while in use.

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He's heating up!

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Man, that was one of a handful of sports games I'd actually let myself be arm-twisted into playing...

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