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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:49 am 
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From "Children of Men" director Alfonso Cuarón. No idea how this is going to be a whole movie, but damn, intense trailer.



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I really don't understand how we get all this interest in space thrillers over the last few years while simultaneously gutting our space program.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
I really don't understand how we get all this interest in space thrillers over the last few years while simultaneously gutting our space program.


Clearly you hate poor people, the nation of Russia, and are a racist. :P

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Seriously, though. In the last ten years, we've had:
Battlestar Galactica
The Chronicles of Riddick
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Serenity
Sunshine
Avatar
Cargo
Moon
Star Trek
Space Battleship Yamato
Europa Report
Star Trek: Into Darkness
and now Gravity

For well-recieved and/or high profile space films.

Meanwhile,
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Kaffis Nameistoolong wrote:
Cargo
Space Battleship Yamato

I do not know what these are.


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They're foreign. Space Battleship Yamato is a live action version of an old anime. I haven't seen it, nor really want to, but recognized the name.

Cargo's another foreign film. I've been wanting to get around to see it if I can find it.

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I don't know Kaffis. Personally, I just feel like they look at anything that helps science or the people, and then cut that first.


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Space Battleship Yamato

Is this related to Star Blazers?


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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
I really don't understand how we get all this interest in space thrillers over the last few years while simultaneously gutting our space program.


One hopes it's the movie industry attempting to generate interest in space so that the public will support funding a space program again.


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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Seriously, though. In the last ten years, we've had:
Battlestar Galactica
The Chronicles of Riddick
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Serenity
Sunshine
Avatar
Cargo
Moon
Star Trek
Space Battleship Yamato
Europa Report
Star Trek: Into Darkness
and now Gravity

For well-recieved and/or high profile space films.

Meanwhile,
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This made me curious.

The total outlays by the Fed in 1992 were $1,381,540,000,000
The total outlays by the Fed in 2007 were $2,728,700,000,000

When one compare the spending for the two years, the outlay for NASA was not gutted so much as pretty constant. What am I missing?

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Vindicarre wrote:
Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Seriously, though. In the last ten years, we've had:
Battlestar Galactica
The Chronicles of Riddick
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Serenity
Sunshine
Avatar
Cargo
Moon
Star Trek
Space Battleship Yamato
Europa Report
Star Trek: Into Darkness
and now Gravity

For well-recieved and/or high profile space films.

Meanwhile,
Image


This made me curious.

The total outlays by the Fed in 1992 were $1,381,540,000,000
The total outlays by the Fed in 2007 were $2,728,700,000,000

When one compare the spending for the two years, the outlay for NASA was not gutted so much as pretty constant. What am I missing?

What was it in 1977?

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Vindicarre wrote:
When one compare the spending for the two years, the outlay for NASA was not gutted so much as pretty constant. What am I missing?

Obama's presidency?

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Hopwin wrote:
What was it in 1977?

Wiki sez:
In 1977 the NASA budget was $11,658M
In 1992 the NASA budget was $15,310M
In 2000 the NASA budget was $14,926M
In 2007 the NASA budget was $15,861M

The above is in constant 2007 $
As a reference, the Moon Landing was in 1969, the first space shuttle launch was in 1981. I too bought into the tale that NASA's budget had been slashed over the years...

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Given inflation, isn't maintaining a constant still basically getting "slashed?"

FY 2012 budget was $17.7B, I'd be happy with 30.


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Ulfynn wrote:
Space Battleship Yamato

Is this related to Star Blazers?



Star Blazers was the American name of the same series so yes.

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Lenas wrote:
Given inflation, isn't maintaining a constant still basically getting "slashed?"

FY 2012 budget was $17.7B, I'd be happy with 30.


Nope, using "constant dollars" is a means of accounting for inflation. The "nominal" dollar amount is the money allocated in that year, the constant dollar is what the nominal dollar amount would be worth (in this case) in 2007.

$30B got us to the moon, I'd like to see what they could do with it now. Another thing I found interesting what the amount of contractor labor that was actually used during the Space Race time period.

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Missed your link. Doh.


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NASA functionality isn't restricted to dollar outlays.

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