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So I just had my year end wrapup meeting where I found out what my raise is for this coming year. We were told the company norm for a fully meets on your review was 1%...

but 2 months ago when the managers were doing their round table discussions on who gets what and who gets a promotion, my boss requested that i fill out a form that justifies a promotion. Basically, you list the projects you've worked on and have to demonstrate that you're performing at the next level for some time before they'll promote you. She made sure I knew it was important to get it done and basically told me that i was the only one in the group being asked to fill this form out...which is a 100% guarentee that you're getting a promotion.

Anyway...so I walk in to my boss' office where he's going to tell me what my increase is. He goes through his spiel and then gets into the meat of the summary. I will paraphrase for simplicity...

"Well, up until 2 weeks ago, you had your promotion. There were 12 promotions in all of R&D (approximately 150 people). Two weeks ago, a memo came out from Corporate requiring all departments to cut the amount of promotions they were giving by 10%. We had to cut 2 people and unfortunately you were one of the two people."



I feel like total crap now....I just wish he hadn't even told me and just said, here's your 2% (they gave me more based on performance YAY!) and thanks for your work.


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Yup. Welcome to corporate America. The soul crushing will continue until morale reaches apathy.


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10% of 12 is 1.2. Which rounds to 1.

Idiots. Can't even do the math right. :p

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my luck, I would have been #12 anyway


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At least you got a raise this year...

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Screeling wrote:
At least you got a raise this year...


Ditto

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Aizle wrote:
Yup. Welcome to corporate America. The soul crushing will continue until moral[sic] reaches apathy.


It's already reached apathy. If it hadn't, people would spearhead their own destiny and not sit and complain about settling for the security of a job and getting bent over occasionally (or more often, depending on how good of a deal you can negotiate).

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Rafael wrote:
Aizle wrote:
Yup. Welcome to corporate America. The soul crushing will continue until moral[sic] reaches apathy.


It's already reached apathy. If it hadn't, people would spearhead their own destiny and not sit and complain about settling for the security of a job and getting bent over occasionally (or more often, depending on how good of a deal you can negotiate).


Some truth there. Out of curiosity Rafael, how old are you and how long have you been working? (assuming you are)


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Saying "**** corporate America" was the healthiest choice I have ever, ever made.

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Monte wrote:
Saying "**** corporate America" was the healthiest choice I have ever, ever made.

Ya know, I tried to say this, thought I'd go into academia, instead. Ten years later, here I sit in a cubicle, servicing the Man. :)

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Aethien wrote:
Monte wrote:
Saying "**** corporate America" was the healthiest choice I have ever, ever made.

Ya know, I tried to say this, thought I'd go into academia, instead. Ten years later, here I sit in a cubicle, servicing the Man. :)



You really, really need to change that to "serving." Unless you mean something....... risque.

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I love Corporate America and private enterprise. Indeed, they make my life very happy. That said ...

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It sucks man, but you need to look at the silver lining and evaluate your stance relative to your employer. If they cut the total promotion eligibility to 9% of the R&D employee pool, then you're still in the top 10-11% of employees. Even if you did not get a promotion you did get a merit raise beyond the norm for added performance. This indicates that you're somewhere between asset level (top) and high desirability on the human resources chart. This speaks well of you. Without knowing much about your corporate structure, they only other reason not to promote you from what I can glean is that your boss wants to keep you.

On a completely unrelated note, Hatchet Work over the Holiday's makes Dr. Doom HAPPY!

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My wife is going through something very similar. Due changes (People getting fired for failure to preform, ethics violations, and audit failures) She was pushed in the Job as interim region manager, While there she formally applied for the position. She had to pass assessment, Oral challenge assessment, audit assessment, and security practices challenge, they have yet to due the formal interview
Instead they keep trying to hire others for the job. 12 candidates to date of which only 4 have made through the first level out those 4 only 1 made it all the way, That one lasted 2 weeks and completely failed her first live audit and security site check.
The fun kickers to this is they were all under 25 all with less than 2 years banking experience 10 were female and 2 were male.
My wife did find out that they starting pay for the one they did try was 15k less then the managers that she was supposed to supervise.
Sadly my wife is very frustrated with these events. She has 20 years of banking experience, under her belt and holds several financial licenses. They always seem to Call on her to clean up other people's mess.
SO now she's back to being interim manager, in addition they want her to clean up a banking center that just had a major audit failure where the Manger, assistant manager, 3 tellers , and 2 personal bankers were fired for ethics and security violations.
The corporate world sucks.

And here I am getting ready to write the Christmas checks for my 3 employees.

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Farsky, Stay out of AZ, My wife didn't need to see that. BTW she carry's

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Wow, that comic almost perfectly depicts something that happened to me in my current job.

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Monte wrote:
Saying "**** corporate America" was the healthiest choice I have ever, ever made.


Except you haven't said any such thing. You still patronize corporate companies every signle day. But keep telling yourself that.

Aizle:

about 2.5 years now, though half a year was for a company I wouldn't consider "corporate" since the site I worked at had minimal support and oversight from the corporate office.

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Right now I am winning the corporate game. That may change tomorrow...I have no illusions, but for now I love corporate America.

And with respect to Monte's comment, I think he meant **** working for corporate America, not any broader sense.


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Sure, probably does, as long as he acknowledges he's contributing to behavior he finds reprehensible.

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Rafael wrote:
Monte wrote:
Saying "**** corporate America" was the healthiest choice I have ever, ever made.


Except you haven't said any such thing. You still patronize corporate companies every signle day. But keep telling yourself that.





In my experience, there is a significant difference between what I do now, where I am self employed and work on my terms, and what I did then, when I was slaving in a cube enduring whatever creepy passive aggressive crap the guy who clawed his way to middle management wanted to hand out that day.

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... not going to sully this thread any further. You didn't even come close to addressing the point.

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You didn't make a point.

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Let me try.

Monte participates in many activities, but he limits his contributions to corporate America by making a lot of his own gear and tools. His entertainment is as much socializing with friends in theater and the SCA as it is watching movies or playing on the computer.

In America it is almost impossible these days to live anything other than a Ludditish or Amish existence and not in some way contribute to corporate America. When and wherever possible, Monte patronizes smaller business, especially hand-crafters and small food businesses.

He rarely sets foot in a Wal-whatever.

Is that the kind of response you are looking for Rafael?

Is that representative of your lifestyle Monte?

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I'll just write this. He uses the internet, drivers a car, probably has a cell phone and plays WoW. Not exactly anti-corporate.

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I'd say Monte's point was more along the lines of "Screw the American corporate office/work environment" than "Screw all of Corporate America", personally.

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