The Glade 4.0

Yes.

I'm voicing my opinion.

You are capable of voicing your opinion in the White House foyer; that doesn't mean it is a public square either.

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So you're saying my opinion on what should be is incorrect? That's retarded.

I think he's saying that just because you can stand in a place an speak your opinion, that doesn't mean it's a 'public square'.

Is this where we get into a prolonged Glade Style™ debate about the definition of "public square" ?

(why do I feel like I just got trolled ? )

First define both public and square, then you can define how the two together mean something substantially different from either word.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Yep. According to http://www.merriam-webster.com/:

Public - of, relating to, paid for by, or working for a government

Square - a person who is conventional or conservative in taste or way of life

So from there, it's pretty clear that the concept of a public square is being dismantled by the libs as retribution for the right-wing conspiracy.

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And I'm saying it should be treated similar to a public square. So what's the problem?

Responding to posts to clarify one's position is not trolling. Stop being a jackass.

Not at all. Some of us simply don't work in fields that enable us to publicly espouse certain viewpoints in public forums. Anonymity is essentially required for us to voice directed opinions on things, specifically negative opinions but sometimes positive ones as well.

In general, though, all people should follow the same level of rigor, regardless of our field.


In addition, and tangentially, it also comes back to understanding that disclosure of private data on the web can lead to all sort of amazing privacy concerns, and review websites would literally never be worth that.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

This just means people will have to be more cautious about how they register.

Do you actually use real personal information on any website with an account you don't use to purchase things?

Seriously. The internet is as anonymous as you want it to be. They can't even locate you by IP if you are really paranoid and careful.

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Review sites are completely pointless if users aren't free to post completely anonymous reviews.

As both a (former) anonymous reviewer, and consumer of anonymous reviews, I doubt I will even bother to use sites like yelp any more.

Or ensure Yelp has no way to figure out who you are when you post there.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Total anonymity from directed internet search efforts by properly equipped and trained individuals is a myth.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

It really isn't. First they need a warrant to force a site like Yelp to reveal your account.
Then when they realize that account info is useless, they need the ip. Then they track it down to the provider, and need a warrant to get the provider to reveal who leased that IP at the time of posting. Then they find out it's McDonald's, and they try to find out what McDonald's customer was connected to their wireless router at the time... they need a warrant to even force McDonald's to reveal that information, and then they find out...wait, McDonald's doesn't make people log on to their free wi-fi. It's an open network with no records of any kind.


Free wi-fi with no account info required is pretty much ubiquitous these days. In the unlikely event they get a warrant to force the provider to reveal who owns the IP you posted from, they're going to get Starbucks/McDonald's/your neighbor's unsecured wireless router/whatever. And the legal pressure of someone trying to track down who posted an anonymous review when there's no evidence of any crime or even libelous claim is going to prevent them from even getting that far.

You can argue that that's a bit of a pain in the neck to achieve anonymity, but seriously, only logging on to your anonymous accounts from free public wi-fi locations is far less of an inconvenience than the futile attempt to track you down. One requires a five minute drive and the purchase of a $1 coffee. The other requires tens of thousands of dollars of billable lawyer time and man-hours, likely for nothing.

If you're really paranoid, layer some "Anonymizer" security (or TOR) on top of that. Sure, a dedicated enough intelligence organization like the NSA could still track you down, but a company angry about your product review doesn't have those resources.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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If only there were some kind of media access control address that was specific to a device.

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I think that, while most of this is correct, you're underestimating intelligence capabilities of agencies and overestimating the "anonymizing" capabilities at your disposal.

For a simple business? Perhaps. But all key intelligence is pattern recognition, and even anonymous traffic creates a pattern.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

LOL

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"If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me." - Alice R. Longworth

"Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun." - Ash Williams

Well damn, maybe they should use all these resources to take down the people who are openly sharing child pornography on the web.

Which is exactly what they do ...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92686

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-l-pu ... 62194.html

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You do know that most NIC drivers allow you to change your MAC in software, don't you?
MAC addresses are also only transmitted on the local subnet. You can't determine a MAC by IP unless you're on the same local network.
Not only that, but most wireless access points aren't configured to keep a running log of MACs that have connected to it in the past, only those currently connected to it.
Lastly, nobody keeps a record of who individually owns which MAC address.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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None of those things are absolutely true. The MAC address has its origins in pre- world wide web networks, many of which had a vested interest in knowing who was part of the network at any given point in time. What the MAC address is currently used for is less relevant than what it can be used for.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Most pre-world-wide-web networks tended to be "single subnets," unconnected to anything else, which is actually likely why the MAC is not routable.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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