The Glade 4.0

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

Obviously the government is trying to use it as population control.

Ebola is now in the wild in the U.S. They have demonstrated a completing unwillingness to contain it. Now, we start asking ourselves why.

Savage suggested on his October 1 radio program that Obama was guilty of treason because he wants "to infect the nation with Ebola." Savage later suggested Obama wants America to get Ebola "to make things fair and equitable" in the world.

There's a pretty sharp division in the US between people and "the wild". For ebola to become endemic to the US, it needs to make it to the fauna. Very few people come in contact with enough fauna on a regular basis for this to occur easily.

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

Really? We have the largest wild bat populations on the planet. The two infected nurses are from Texas, which has the largest bat population in the United States. It will make it to the fauna, especially if an asymptomatic passenger was at the end of her incubation period.

I realize one should never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity, but this is pretty malignant stupidity.

I like the theory that Obama is trying to show we're no better than the Africans by letting us get infected.

I can't fathom the mindset of that second nurse.

"I'm under monitoring for Ebola, and I had close contact with Patient Zero. Let's get on a plane and go see my family!"

**** moron. I guarantee you I wouldn't be getting on a plane to see anyone if I was testing myself for a deadly disease.

Texas is also the second largest state by land area and the largest contiguous state, so having a large bat population by absolute numbers might not be terribly meaningful.

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

It's terribly meaningful, particularly when you have projects like this sponsored statewide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_W._Ric ... nue_Bridge

But, as for the bat vector ...

Bats eats mosquitoes. Ebola can survive in human blood for several days outside of a human host. Texas has truckloads of mosquitoes. Texas has truckloads of bats.

They have plenty of Mosquitos in west Africa. I've not heard they are an Ebola vector

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmissi ... =nocontent

Nope. No evidence Mosquitos can transmit it

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

What is the probability that an infected human in Texas would be bitten by a mosquito that would go on to be eaten by a bat?

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

You guys are focused too much on human infection vectors to see the problem. If Ebola gets into American bat populations, then outbreaks will occur in other places, primarily because the bats are going to infect other carrier fauna that humans frequently encounter. What's the probability an infected bat bites a human? Pretty low. What's the probability that an infected bat gets eaten on a pig farm? And what happens with it gets into an American bacon mill?

We don't want Ebola to escape into the wild in the United States precisely we won't be able to control fauna infection vectors. You guys are worried about direct infections to human as opposed to the actual spread among carrier fauna. And there are fauna types in the United States that do not exist in West Africa (and vice versa). And here's another scary thought ...

Dogs are non-presenting carriers. They don't get sick. My dogs are good for a bat or two a year each.

Reservoir
Bats are considered the most likely natural reservoir of EBOV. Plants, arthropods, and birds were also considered.In the wild, transmission may occur when infected fruit bats drop partially eaten fruits or fruit pulp, then land mammals such as gorillas and duikers may feed on these fallen fruits. This chain of events forms a possible indirect means of transmission from the natural host species to other animal species, which has led to research towards viral shedding in the saliva of fruit bats. Fruit production, animal behavior, and other factors vary at different times and places that may trigger outbreaks among animal populations.

Bats were known to reside in the cotton factory in which the first cases for the 1976 and 1979 outbreaks were observed, and they have also been implicated in Marburg virus infections in 1975 and 1980. Of 24 plant species and 19 vertebrate species experimentally inoculated with EBOV, only bats became infected. The absence of clinical signs in these bats is characteristic of a reservoir species. In a 2002–2003 survey of 1,030 animals including 679 bats from Gabon and the Republic of the Congo, 13 fruit bats were found to contain EBOV RNA fragments. As of 2005, three types of fruit bats (Hypsignathus monstrosus, Epomops franqueti, and Myonycteris torquata) have been identified as being in contact with EBOV. They are now suspected to represent the EBOV reservoir hosts.Antibodies against Zaire and Reston viruses have been found in fruit bats in Bangladesh, thus identifying potential virus hosts and signs of the filoviruses in Asia. Fruit bats are also eaten by people in parts of West Africa where they are smoked, grilled or made into a spicy soup.

Between 1976 and 1998, in 30,000 mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians and arthropods sampled from outbreak regions, no Ebola virus was detected apart from some genetic traces found in six rodents (Mus setulosus and Praomys) and one shrew (Sylvisorex ollula) collected from the Central African Republic. Traces of EBOV were detected in the carcasses of gorillas and chimpanzees during outbreaks in 2001 and 2003, which later became the source of human infections. However, the high lethality from infection in these species makes them unlikely as a natural reservoir. Transmission between natural reservoir and humans is rare, and outbreaks are usually traceable to a single case where an individual has handled the carcass of gorilla, chimpanzee or duiker.

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

I can't fathom the mindset of that second nurse.

"I'm under monitoring for Ebola, and I had close contact with Patient Zero. Let's get on a plane and go see my family!"

**** moron. I guarantee you I wouldn't be getting on a plane to see anyone if I was testing myself for a deadly disease.

And DE, you don't have to be bitten by an infected species to be exposed. The virus can survive in any body fluid.

I'm surprised nobody is getting fired over this. This is a fiasco