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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:35 pm 
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How do we feel about the new Dr. Doom?


We are not amused.


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Meh, but no one cares about the F4. Doom is the best part of FF.

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So, I just watched the newest trailer...

Are they trying to say Doom is a creature from another dimention?

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Raell wrote:
So, I just watched the newest trailer...

Are they trying to say Doom is a creature from another dimention?


I had thought he was some hacker kid.

Nope, found an article, looks like he's a computer scientist who's "kind of adopted" by Johnny Storm's dad.

Spoiler-y: "http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/fantastic-four/247692/fantastic-four-toby-kebbell-on-doctor-dooms-origins"


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He's the guy sitting beside Johnny when Johnny ratchets his office chair down in the previous trailer.


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Deadpool factoids from SDCC:

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Let’s break out what we’ve learned from Comic-Con:

    There’s an "athletic" sex montage with Ryan Reynolds and Morena Baccarin, thus guaranteeing at least a few million in ticket sales from pervs.
    The movie is full of nerd candy with minor characters like Ajax and Negasonic Teenage Warhead.
    Deadpool swears like a sailor; at one point he calls Colossus a “giant chrome cock-gobbler.”
    The movie is almost ridiculously violent, with multiple headshots and gore.
    Everybody wants to push it as far away from the “shiny X-Men” universe as possible.


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1) I simply can no longer give a **** about any Marvel movie that's not linked to the MCU.
2) FarSky's Deadpool description from Comic-Con sounds like it's going to be garbage.

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Talya wrote:
1) I simply can no longer give a **** about any Marvel movie that's not linked to the MCU.
2) FarSky's Deadpool description from Comic-Con sounds like it's going to be garbage.



Maybe you're just not the target market? It sounds like it pretty much nails the tone of the comics.


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I'm also finding myself more drawn to the non-MCU stuff, because they can take chances and risks with theirs, whereas the MCU stuff, while enjoyable as hell, is so heavily planned to be interlocking that it robs it of any real surprises.


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2) FarSky's Deadpool description from Comic-Con sounds like it's going to be garbage.


Are you kidding me? Deadpool is the best thing to come out of SDCC.


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Lenas wrote:
Talya wrote:
2) FarSky's Deadpool description from Comic-Con sounds like it's going to be garbage.


Are you kidding me?


No. Let's review.

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There’s an "athletic" sex montage with Ryan Reynolds and Morena Baccarin, thus guaranteeing at least a few million in ticket sales from pervs.

Meh. Morena Baccarin is cute. Deadpool, not so much, no matter who plays him.

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The movie is full of nerd candy with minor characters like Ajax and Negasonic Teenage Warhead.


Who?

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Deadpool swears like a sailor; at one point he calls Colossus a “giant chrome cock-gobbler.”


I don't actually enjoy this. It detracts from the movie, most of the time. The occasional F-Bomb is fine, but a non-stop stream of stuff like that doesn't help.

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The movie is almost ridiculously violent, with multiple headshots and gore.


Again, this generally isn't something that makes a movie better. Like with obscenity, it loses all emotional value if it's too commonplace.

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Everybody wants to push it as far away from the “shiny X-Men” universe as possible.


Continuity and connections are everything in these movies. Fox is already operating at a disadvantage because they won't play nice with Marvel Studios. Let's get rid of any incentive to see these characters by putting them in unconnecting silos and removing all connections? Yeah, not interested.

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Deadpool is the best thing to come out of SDCC

I haven't checked out very much of the SDCC yet, but the star wars panel looked far more interesting to me.

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Ant-Man is **** incredible.

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Really enjoyed it. Bravo, Peyton Reed.


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Bravo, Peyton Reed.


Indeed.

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The beautifully woven set of connections into the MCU start immediately, but never overpower the movie. It's its own separate story, important to the MCU but still independant so far.

- 1989. Hank Pym visits the SHIELD Triskellion being built. An aging Peggy Carter and Howard Stark (played by John Slattery from Iron Man 2, not Dominic Cooper from Cap/Agent Carter) spend time arguing with him over his tech.
- The new Avengers training facility and Ant-Man's battle with Falcon is wonderfully handled.
- The fact that they didn't completely ignore canon - with a backstory involving Hank and Janet Pym as Ant-Man and Wasp was a nice touch.
- Hydra reminds us they still exist.
- Little references to the various Avengers persist through the movie; you never have a chance forget you're in the MCU continuity. (Including Spider-man, who had his first in-universe reference in this movie, despite not being in it directly.)
- The Stan Lee cameo was one of the funniest ever.
- End-Credits scenes were entirely worth it.

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I almost thought about skipping this, mostly due to the fact I was severely underwelmed with the vast majority of Season two of AoS, but sounds like I better not.

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Talya wrote:
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- Little references to the various Avengers persist through the movie; you never have a chance forget you're in the MCU continuity. (Including Spider-man, who had his first in-universe reference in this movie, despite not being in it directly.)

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I was digging through my memory enough to distract me on this line. It was "He's got a jumper, a swinger, and a " what was the third one? The swinger is, yeah, a nod to Spider-Man, who the hell jumps? I mean, aside from Batroc the Leaper, I suppose, but he's a villain we already used in Captain America and I'd rate his conversion to Avengerdom as.. unlikely. In any event, I was too busy trying to decide whether comic readers should recognize the asian girl in Luis' grapevine and scratching my head on the jumper for the third one to stick in my memory.

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The third one was climbs walls.


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Jhorra wrote:
The third one was climbs walls.

Aha, okay. That's got to be a Spider-Woman reference.

Hmm. So I wonder if the one that jumps is another insect-themed hero? Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Ant-Man...

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Don't read too much into it.

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At the end of the film as Falcon (more on him in a bit) talks with a journalist. The journalist mentions there are superheroes that swing and crawl up walls, a seemingly obvious nod to Spider-Man now that the character is joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And while this line of dialogue is now our first MCU mention of Spider-Man, that was not the original intention.

“When that was shot, that was before the whole [Spider-Man] thing had happened,” explained Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige. “It really was just her listing relatively generic powers leading into Falcon saying, ‘I’m looking for someone who shrinks.’ Now that the Spider-Man deal has been announced, it takes on a different connotation.”

Director Peyton Reed agreed.

“The important thing in this movie is that—at the end of the movie, as a result of his run-in with The Falcon—the Avengers [are looking for Ant-Man],” he said. “We don’t know why yet—we don’t know what’s going to happen, but, it had to come through Falcon, so we created this journalist character. And so, it kinda came out as this thing, and… now we know, Spider-Man is going to be a part of the larger MCU, which is incredibly exciting.”


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Dr Hank Pym and his daughter (can't wait for her to become Wasp) were pretty cool, I'm not so sure about this Ant Man pretender I guess he'll have to do Maybe he'll be less of a dufus next time..

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Dr Hank Pym and his daughter (can't wait for her to become Wasp) were pretty cool, I'm not so sure about this Ant Man pretender I guess he'll have to do Maybe he'll be less of a dufus next time..


Hey, Scott Lang has been around a lot longer than the Marvel Cinematic Universe. They even stayed fairly close to the story here.

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Yeah, they treated Scott Lang really well.

Also, Ant-Man is very much a similar situation as The Flash... there are two very well fleshed out iterations in the comics, both of whom are excellent characters. But it's the second one that ends up working more dynamically with the super-team the mantle is best known for being a part of, so it's the second one who gets brought to the mass market in the new media.

Wally West IS the Flash for any Timm-verse die-hards, and now, Scott Lang IS Ant-Man for any MCU fans.

Which is fine with me. I can barely tolerate Hank Pym's intellectual dick-measuring contests with Stark, Richards, and Banner on the page, where you're not suffering them at an opportunity cost of amazingly rendered action sequences and special effects extravaganzas.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Wally West IS the Flash.
Let me fix that for you.

They have had to do some serious retconning of Barry Allen's powers in the post-New 52 world to make him comparable to Wally. Wally was the Speed Force incarnate and did his time in Barry's shadow. It wasn't until the mid 90s that Wally actually came into his own. And when he did, he was no longer second fiddle to Barry. Remember, when Batman has the choice of bringing one back from oblivion, he chooses Wally over Barry.

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Wally West IS the Flash.
Let me fix that for you.

They have had to do some serious retconning of Barry Allen's powers in the post-New 52 world to make him comparable to Wally. Wally was the Speed Force incarnate and did his time in Barry's shadow. It wasn't until the mid 90s that Wally actually came into his own. And when he did, he was no longer second fiddle to Barry. Remember, when Batman has the choice of bringing one back from oblivion, he chooses Wally over Barry.

Perhaps Timm-verse Green Lantern would be a better example, then.

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Took in Ant Man on Friday. I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would.

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