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We saw it yesterday. Aside from the auto-tuning (really obtrusive, IMHO), it was well made. "Evermore" was a fairly decent new song (not as good as the musical's "If I Can't Love Her"). I was also glad that they replaced "Human Again".

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So, yeah, the movie is very interesting. I like it, but there's definitely some crazy Disney ninja moves you need to do in your brain to accept it all.


A lot of this has been changed in the live-action version (10-year timeline after the curse, Gaston's behavior, etc). It keeps the core of the movie, but tweaks a few things just enough.

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I saw Beauty and the Beast today and was a bit disappointed. Emma Watson didn't have the range of acting, much less singing, to pull off the job as the star of the show. It may have been the theater we were at, but the music overwhelmed the singing. I liked the beast 100% better as a beast than when he was returned to human form. The singing was totally inferior to the animated film in every way.

It would have been a good movie if I had never seen the 1991 version.

There's no comparing Emma Thompson's performance to Angela Lansbury's. I love Emma Thompson, but it doesn't blind me to the facts. The first several words - "Tale as old as time..." - from 1991 brings a tear to my eyes.

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I saw Beauty and the Beast today and was a bit disappointed. Emma Watson didn't have the range of acting, much less singing, to pull off the job as the star of the show. It may have been the theater we were at, but the music overwhelmed the singing. I liked the beast 100% better as a beast than when he was returned to human form. The singing was totally inferior to the animated film in every way.

It would have been a good movie if I had never seen the 1991 version.

There's no comparing Emma Thompson's performance to Angela Lansbury's. I love Emma Thompson, but it doesn't blind me to the facts. "Tale as old as time..." from 1991 brings a tear to my eyes.


I haven't seen it yet, but this is an understandable position, and potentially unfair -- the 1991 original was spectacular.

Actually, I'm kinda happy. I'd hate for the old animated films to fade into obscurity as they get replaced by live action remakes. I'll probably love it to death, anyway - the broadway musical was amazing. It doesn't replace the original, nothing could, but B&tB was my favorite stage musical I've ever seen.

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I liked that the beast finally has his own song, and it was a pretty good one too.

I agree with taskiss on Emma Thompson. Howard Ashman specifically wanted that song to be sung subdued, refined, and elegantly. Emma seemed like she went a little too much in places, just to make her mark. It wasn't bad, but it was no Lansbury.

I don't know why they cast Watson. They found a 16 year old nobody who knocked Moana and her songs waaaay out of the park. They could have done the same for belle.

But the true litmus test was my three year old daughter. She adored every second of the movie. Nicely done, Disney.

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I liked that the beast finally has his own song, and it was a pretty good one too.


I still like his song from the stage musical better. Evermore just didn't stick with me. I couldn't even hum the melody today, and I only saw the movie a week ago. It was good while I was watching it, but it didn't have the feels of If I Can't Love Her, which still gives me chills. (Plus, the guy in the movie did not have a voice even half as good as Terrance Mann's.)

But we still enjoyed the movie.

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I liked that the beast finally has his own song, and it was a pretty good one too.


I still like his song from the stage musical better. Evermore just didn't stick with me. I couldn't even hum the melody today, and I only saw the movie a week ago. It was good while I was watching it, but it didn't have the feels of If I Can't Love Her, which still gives me chills. (Plus, the guy in the movie did not have a voice even half as good as Terrance Mann's.)

But we still enjoyed the movie.


I agree with you the one from the stage is better, but mostly because Jody Ashworth (who also sang Beast) is one of my favorite singers of allest of alls of times.

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Honestly, it's better than the animated film, which was my #3 out of the four pillars of the Disney Renaissance (if you're wondering, it goes The Lion King, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast then The Little Mermaid for me). This fixed several major issues that the animated film had (most notably the unearned, seemingly instantaneously relationship that Belle and the Beast develop, and that animated Gaston didn't really do much to warrant death; his crimes were more the "get covered in manure", Biff Tannen-style comeuppance). Emma Watson was a better, more interesting and more developed Belle, and though admittedly the post-production engineering on her vocals showed she's not exactly a singer by trade, the chemistry between her and Dan Stevens as the Beast, even buried under all the digital makeup, was palpable. Le Fou, who always seemed too cartoonish even by a cartoon's standards, gets a much better character and Gad's great, even as he puts the "camp" in aide-de-camp, and Luke Evans was pitch-perfect as Gaston, this time allowed to enter into the realm of proper villainy. This Gaston did deserve death. And the look of the thing, from costumes to production to set design, were nothing short of exquisite.


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This Gaston did deserve death. And the look of the thing, from costumes to production to set design, were nothing short of exquisite.


My biggest gripe, where I prefer the cartoon, was the removal of Belle saving one of the two of them from falling to death and it being Beast. In this one he just sort of stands there and the castle falls out from underneath him. His death was less by his own hands, and the choice of others, and more "Well, that sucks." One could argue that he made the choice to stand on rickety ground, but if that was really the case then it was filmed and presented poorly.

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Numbuk wrote:
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I liked that the beast finally has his own song, and it was a pretty good one too.


I still like his song from the stage musical better. Evermore just didn't stick with me. I couldn't even hum the melody today, and I only saw the movie a week ago. It was good while I was watching it, but it didn't have the feels of If I Can't Love Her, which still gives me chills. (Plus, the guy in the movie did not have a voice even half as good as Terrance Mann's.)

But we still enjoyed the movie.


I agree with you the one from the stage is better, but mostly because Jody Ashworth (who also sang Beast) is one of my favorite singers of allest of alls of times.


And the original stage Belle (Susan Egan) was the voice actress for one of my favorite Disney characters, Megara. :)

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