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http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/ ... tml?hpt=T3

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• Nov. 18, 2009: While clearing the roads for Vice President Joe Biden’s scheduled appearance on “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart,” two police cars collided with a livery cab at the intersection of West 49th Street and 10th Avenue. According to the New York Post, two officers and the cab operator were taken to a hospital for treatment of back and neck injuries.


Plus I think there was a third in which someone was killed but I cannot find it.

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you're blaming Biden because the police clearing the road in advance of his visit had a car accident?

Cheney actually shot his hunting partner. Someone else had an accident and Biden wasn't even on the scene and you're comparing the two?


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you're blaming Biden because the police clearing the road in advance of his visit had a car accident?

Cheney actually shot his hunting partner. Someone else had an accident and Biden wasn't even on the scene and you're comparing the two?


I stand corrected, that is actually at least 5 4 car accidents caused by his motorcade:
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/12027

Three of them occured the week of Nov 17th.

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If you see Vice President Joe Biden's motorcade coming, you best get out of the way for your own safety. In only the past week, three separate accidents have occurred involving Biden's squadron of vehicles.

According to the Secret Service, a New York City police car working ahead of the VP's motorcade collided with another vehicle Tuesday night. Biden's car was not involved, but two police officers and a cab driver were sent to the hospital with minor injuries.

On Monday, a sheriff's vehicle escorting Biden's motorcade in Albuquerque was hit by a car that went around two units blocking an intersection. A sergeant in the vehicle was injured.

Lastly, a Maryland man was killed last week when he was hit by two Secret Service cars - a limo sometiems used by Biden, and a Chevrolet Suburban used in his motorcade. Biden was not in either vehicle at the time of the accident.

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Accident in Vancouver involving Biden's motorcade


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Good lord, who's he have driving in that motorcade?


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TheRiov wrote:
you're blaming Biden because the police clearing the road in advance of his visit had a car accident?

Cheney actually shot his hunting partner. Someone else had an accident and Biden wasn't even on the scene and you're comparing the two?


Make sure you get that Cheney Shield up.

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While I laughed and made serious fun of Cheney at the time, and still think he's an evil idiot; hunting accidents aren't exactly rare.

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While I laughed and made serious fun of Cheney at the time, and still think he's an evil idiot; hunting accidents aren't exactly rare.


True. Having taken a shotgun pellet in the face once myself, .....


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My grandfather still had birdshot in his left arm (while he was in his 60's) from much earlier in his life.

It prevented him receiving an MRI.

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Wow, if it were once, I'd give it a pass. But this is seriously shaping up to look like something systemic. WTF is going on?

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I'd wager far more of us have had car accidents than been in hunting accidents though.


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To be fair, according to the articles, of the 4 accidents, 1 involved the local sheriff's office (directly traffic, not involved directly with the motorcade), one involved another local police department leading the motorcade, one involved the Canadian police (driving the vehicles), and the sole accident reporting a fatality involved the Secret Service driving the vehicles.


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TheRiov wrote:
I'd wager far more of us have had car accidents than been in hunting accidents though.

And I wager a far larger percentage of the US drives than hunts... your point?


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True, but I think that the accidents-per-participant ratio is still far higher for drivers than hunters.

ie. its probably riskier driving than hunting.


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I still don't get your point.

Are you taking the position that 4 accidents within 3 months is statistically less of an aberration than one hunting accident in 40+ years?


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I wasn't aware I was making a point. (and at the time I responded we were at a single accident, not 4)


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My bad then. I assumed there was a point behind the comments.


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Diamondeye wrote:
TheRiov wrote:
you're blaming Biden because the police clearing the road in advance of his visit had a car accident?

Cheney actually shot his hunting partner. Someone else had an accident and Biden wasn't even on the scene and you're comparing the two?


Make sure you get that Cheney Shield up.


This isn't really called for. Hopwin started the Biden/Cheney comparisons, its in the title of the thread. TheRiov is just responding to the initial post.


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Telumehtar wrote:
Diamondeye wrote:
TheRiov wrote:
you're blaming Biden because the police clearing the road in advance of his visit had a car accident?

Cheney actually shot his hunting partner. Someone else had an accident and Biden wasn't even on the scene and you're comparing the two?


Make sure you get that Cheney Shield up.


This isn't really called for. Hopwin started the Biden/Cheney comparisons, its in the title of the thread. TheRiov is just responding to the initial post.


1) This is Hellfire, not Heckfire, so you can take "isn't really called for" to the other forum
2) Even if the comparison hadn't been made, someone would be bringing up Cheney. People complained about the Clinton Shield endlessly when Bush was in office, but apparently it's perfectly ok when it's reveresed.

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Speaking of the Cheney shield...

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Diamondeye wrote:
2) Even if the comparison hadn't been made, someone would be bringing up Cheney. People complained about the Clinton Shield endlessly when Bush was in office, but apparently it's perfectly ok when it's reveresed.


I understand. So to deal with the perceived threat of a Cheney shield, the strategy is to premptively attack their defenses (Cheney shield) and then immediately raise your Clinton Shield? Then, distribute propaganda justifying the attack on the Cheney sheild by pointing out that your Clinton sheild was attacked in the past.

That is brilliant strategy, General Poopface!


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Diamondeye wrote:
2) Even if the comparison hadn't been made, someone would be bringing up Cheney. People complained about the Clinton Shield endlessly when Bush was in office, but apparently it's perfectly ok when it's reveresed.


I understand. So to deal with the perceived threat of a Cheney shield, the strategy is to premptively attack their defenses (Cheney shield) and then immediately raise your Clinton Shield? Then, distribute propaganda justifying the attack on the Cheney sheild by pointing out that your Clinton sheild was attacked in the past.

That is brilliant strategy, General Poopface!


No, it was more just a reason to point out how rapidly attitudes changed with the change in administration.

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