The Glade 4.0

http://www.sacbee.com/2009/03/19/1698037/unemployment-in-california.html

Very interesting interactive map with month by month unemployment statistics.

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Memento Vivere

I have local knowledge.
That sandbar was not there yesterday!

Very cool. Thanks SG!

That was kinda nifty. I can watch the fail intensify!

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The Dude abides.

I'll donate one of my jobs to help get San Diego County back in the green.

Wow, that's dramatic.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Hey, it's Kaffis.

Where?

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Yeah, I don't see one. *looks left, right*

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Damn conspiracy theorists.

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Thanks Squirrel Girl, good demonstration of the reality here.

For the rest of you, America's largest food producing area is in shambles and you joke. That painfully suffering county in the bottom right is Imperial county. I can almost guarantee you have eaten food from there. That is one of the most productive food sources in the country. Most of the farms there can get four crops a year thanks to the 'miracles' of irrigation and fertilization. (It will also return to desert eventually because of those miracles, but for now its working.)

The central valley, I think you folks do not understand how much of the nations food comes out of that slowly getting worse area.

Yes, people grow food all over, but California supplies nearly one-third of the food eaten in America. Those counties suffering those job losses directly affect the ability of those food producers to grow, harvest, and transport the food to your markets.

Wait until our breweries shut down, can't produce enough beer for export, then you'll care.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Nah.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

What kind of crappy beer comes from California?

http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/

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Beer derail yay. San Diego was named the #1 beer town in the nation and has one of the fastest-growing brew communities anywhere. We've got some great breweries, AleSmith and Ballast Point, among others. While there are tons of good breweries all over the place, Great Lakes and others like Allagash included, to say that CA isn't producing some fine products is a little misleading!

It's really a shame that California has to rely on its government to ship water to its developed regions, so it could be withheld to buy votes for Healthcare, and now we find the region's agriculture hemorrhaging jobs.

Does this mean that California's unemployment is Obama's fault?

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

More to the point, why do we need to grow so much food in a desert?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Because of how much sun it gets, duh.

Nevermind that we're still paying farmers with natural access to both sun and water to not farm.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Amazing.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

They aren't being paid to not farm, they are being paid to not grow corn. Price stabilization seems to be the reason. Many of them choose to let their fields lie fallow rather than grow something else because they already make more money than they would farming.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Sooo... they are being paid not to farm...

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

A gross simplification, but in effect, yes.

We'll pay you not to grow corn does not equal we'll pay you not to farm at all, but for those with little imagination and less initiative, it would seem that way.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Not at all. They have astute business acumen. Why take the risks associated with farming, where there is massive potential for loss, when you've already turned a tidy profit by sitting on your ***, assuring your taxes are paid, and your land it yours. This is what is known as "perverse incentive", and it has followed managed economies everywhere they have gone.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

You say that like its a good thing?

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Neither good nor bad. It's just an observably human thing. Given that, it only makes sense that our government should take it's hands out of the pot, as all it's doing is ruining the soup.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Your monologue about the plight of California and agriculture there, while attempting to chastise those here light of it, sounds like little more than a "think of the children" rally cry, and the set up for another "never waste a crisis" situation.

Does it suck that apparently California is having so much self inflicted pain? For you guys, most definitely, and if it spills over to affecting the country at large as you predict, well... clearly California should be dismantled and broken up into several smaller state, as things that are "too big" to fail should never be left in such a position.

You would be surprised how much popular support that idea has here. The resistance to it comes from the water interests in Southern California who realize that making a North, Middle, and South California would really screw over their ability to steal water from the top half of the State.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones