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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:11 pm 
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I think you should start posting videos of this body language stuff so the hot girls here can critique you.


Ok!!! I will later tonight!! :D


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Sweet! I like to consider myself rather an amateur-expert (I just made that up) at deciphering body language.
Analyzing people can be mucho fun!

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[youtube]2r8xhvisMc0[/youtube]

Ok don't make fun of me too much!! :P


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Ok, initial impression: You are a sweetheart who will never be a "tough guy" and I think the problem here is that instead of embracing the softie and nice guy that you are, you are trying desperately to be someone that you are not.
I can tell by the look in your eyes, the way you carry yourself, and the tones and inflections in your voice that you have a natural affinity for people and you so so so want to make connections with other people because you need the emotional validation and the warm fuzzies that such connections provide. (Which makes me wonder where your parents have been and while they may have been good parents, are they not capable of providing the deep, deep emotional connection that you have missed out on which is causing you to currently seek superficial ones?)
My advice to you is to stop trying to be someone that you are not, stop "trying on" other's personality types, stop TRYING to be confident or whatever, and stop trying to meet so many strangers.
You have the capacity to be extremely vulnerable which can be a wonderful thing in an intimate relationship that usually only occurs between friends that have known each other for awhile. I know it is hard to wait for that deep connection, but I think you should. I also feel for you because someone most obviously dropped the ball on you at an early age and did not engage you in that deep connection at the appropriate formative time.
I truly believe that a personality like yours will flourish with a few small close friends, and flounder into confused and hurtful oblivion if drowned in a sea of strangers.

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Thanks for your reply and feedback.

I'm now more street confident, in the actual real sense, than everyone I have met except for senior police officers and crazy old homeless guys. I get phone numbers from 30%-40% of girls who I talk to, and I don't even try to say the right words. I just say whatever. Last night I was tired and I walked up to a group of 6 and charmed them all and spin-kissed a girl, minus the kissing though. I was just demonstrating what it's like. It was at a subway station. It was amusing to me. I didn't really expend any energy, and I didn't get anxious. I wasn't having a bipolar episode either. They thought it was hilarious.

I ruined my date because I had a staring contest without her permission. But I have a date with a different girl tonight.

This is all extremely entertaining to me now. I'm not stopping :D. I have emotionally faced death hundreds of times, getting panic attacks many times, and it is finally paying off. I am now very desensitized to social pressure, like Columbus was to the natives in the New World.

Now I can finally troll in real life and be effective about it, because hardly anything bothers me, and I can act however I please without anxiety. Other people can sense my confidence and they don't know how to react, well, until I tell them how.

If you don't believe anything I have written here (this is to everyone, not you Lady Kate), then you can **** off. I may be a lot of things but I am not a liar.


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You should stop your "experiments", and just be a person.

It's okay to be friendly, but you seem to take it to the creepy side. You seem "needy". Most people loathe "needy" people. They wear out their welcome really quick.

Find yourself before you worry about finding others.

And I don't know how things work up there, but down here......you "swing kiss" the wrong girl, and some dude is gonna pancake your little *** into the hospital.

Apparently you have never had a good *** beating, or else you wouldn't shrug these things off so easily. One good sized pulp wood hauler with a tire iron can mess your **** up. Just sayin'


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I have emotionally faced death hundreds of times, getting panic attacks many times, and it is finally paying off. I am now very desensitized to social pressure, like Columbus was to the natives in the New World.

What does that even mean?


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You've never "emotionally" faced death. Getting in a car accident happens to quickly for you too be aware you are facing death, so the psychological effect isn't the same. Trust me, I've fallen off a motorcycle at about 70MPH, there's no time to think about anything, not even your life flashing before your eyes.

Nor is being awkward in a social situation in which there are no lasting repercussions around strangers the same as emotionally facing death because of exactly that: there are no real consequences.

You've proven yourself that you don't emotionally deal well when "faced with death" because you've stated don't treat those who care close to you, those who's ties can't be instantly severed like a stranger you have no prior relationship with, differently than strangers.

If you were really that inured to dealing with "emotional death" in the context of societal situations, you would be a complete psychopath to everyone around, including your family and friends.


What you are doing is probably one of the worst possible ways of accomplishing what it is you want. There is no reason to go out and be cognizant of social situations in an analytical sense. Social situations are largely dictated by emotions, and while INTJ types might be able to synthesize a response others can empathize with based on a complex and learned General Ruleset for Social Interactions, ultimately the ruleset becomes too complicated, unwieldy and proves to be the purveyors undoing because of how massively complex inter-social instincts are when put into a deterministic, rule based framework.

Even the best players I know operate on largely workman's firsthand knowledge and instinct, rather than any sort of analytical, rule-based framework. It's why it's a skill that can never be taught, only learned. You are trying to teach yourself it. You have to just learn it.

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You haven't faced death. You've faced panic attacks.

Check it out! I can do it too! I had a head cold once, so I definatly know what it's like to stare down the barrel of the AIDS gun.

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You think that voice terrifies people huh?

Try your experiments in Philly sometime.


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Rafael wrote:
Even the best players I know operate on largely workman's firsthand knowledge and instinct, rather than any sort of analytical, rule-based framework. It's why it's a skill that can never be taught, only learned. You are trying to teach yourself it. You have to just learn it.


I agree. I learn it by approaching dozens of women per day, and the effects on me are drastic. I need a lot more calibration before I start seeing some real success.


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The best way of describing the desensitization is like regarding the emotions of strangers the same as you would your friends: they are harmless and not threatening. Bad emotions don't mean you have to leave the situation, etc. It doesn't make you a "psychopath"... just that you see everyone as non-threatening. Like if someone yells at you, it's like your friend yelling at you, and you can laugh, yell back, ignore, whatever, without feeling social pressure towards any way.


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Kirra wrote:
Talk to someone because you want to...


I've done this for a long time, and I'm now going to die alone. You provide the worst advice ever. Also, you know nothing about trying to get women. Women are the worst people to ask about how to talk to them, because most of them don't know what they really want.

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Wow, classy.

Honestly, Lex is trying to improve himself and all you folks do is try to tear him down. What a bunch of internet assholes. I don't necessarily agree with his way he goes about doing everything, but it's better than playing WoW.

You might want to just read this, Lex. http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-I ... 271&sr=8-1

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Wow, classy.

Honestly, Lex is trying to improve himself and all you folks do is try to tear him down. What a bunch of internet assholes. I don't necessarily agree with his way he goes about doing everything, but it's better than playing WoW.

You might want to just read this, Lex. http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-I ... 271&sr=8-1




Thanks Wwen. I'm glad someone doesn't think I'm being a serial killer for trying to be social. :roll:

I had 3 dates in a row with different women over the last few days, and it was a TON of fun. More are lined up. I'm sure you guys are pissed off that people actually choose to spend time with me.

I also want to comment about my parenting, since LadyKate attacked it. My parents did a great job. I had friends growing up, etc. However I want to be super confident, not just normal. I enjoy this. I don't want to be a cubicle drone like many of my coworkers. That would be so depressing. I want to run around having fun until my late 20s or so.

I've heard about that book, and I might check it out some time.


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Also... if I didn't take measures to meet people since I graduated school and moved 2 hours away, I would have near ZERO dependable friends right now. I live in the freaking wilderness. People don't just magically drop into my life. It takes effort on my part. I don't want to join clubs because I don't enjoy any activities, except for travel and hiking. But hiking in MA is dumb. Also I don't see how I can get physical with people in scheduled group situations... and if I ask them out I seem like a dork because they were so easy to meet.

Lastly, making more money obviously won't help me socially. I already make enough to go out every day.


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Even the best players I know operate on largely workman's firsthand knowledge and instinct, rather than any sort of analytical, rule-based framework. It's why it's a skill that can never be taught, only learned. You are trying to teach yourself it. You have to just learn it.


I agree. I learn it by approaching dozens of women per day, and the effects on me are drastic. I need a lot more calibration before I start seeing some real success.


You do not agree. The very fact that you posted what you just did shows you do not.

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Rafael wrote:
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Even the best players I know operate on largely workman's firsthand knowledge and instinct, rather than any sort of analytical, rule-based framework. It's why it's a skill that can never be taught, only learned. You are trying to teach yourself it. You have to just learn it.


I agree. I learn it by approaching dozens of women per day, and the effects on me are drastic. I need a lot more calibration before I start seeing some real success.


You do not agree. The very fact that you posted what you just did shows you do not.


I just go up to people and do whatever I feel like and have fun. I analyze things after the fact.


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Exactly. That's my point.

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That it's bad to analyze? You don't have empirical proof that analyzing this stuff makes you worse at it.


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There's nothing to "prove". It's a social experiment. Not a theory revolving around scientific law. If you wanted to make it as such, it would involve incredibly complex analysis of theatrics of human interaction at the most fundamental physical levels: billions of simultaneous chemical systems playing out.

Therefore, your proffering that it it requires some sort of empirical proof is just a red herring since any proof in any regard could show only a tenuous link at best, not causation or correlation.

Furthermore, under the guise of your flawed logic, you have no empirical proof that analyzing "this stuff" makes you better at it. Therefore, the effort spent could easily be dismissed as wasteful.

Third, anyone who actively analyzes social situations as they are unfolding (which you do despite your most previous claim to the contrary based on what you've posted in the past, and based on the common knowledge that post-mortem analysis plays into future interactions as they unfold) is just simulating emotion, the most integral part of social interactivity. Otherwise, if they actually acted genuinely, they wouldn't need to understand the rules of social interaction in a conscious, puppeteering type way in order to act in a social situation.

Finally, the fact that your accounts are completely contradictory and inconsistent from post to post leads me to believe you are a pathological liar that has become so good at lying, you can deceive even yourself. Not necessarily lying about recounting the facts surrounding events actually took place, but lying about psychological mindsets in such situations, moods and textures that were present, and essentially shaping the situation into one that is more pleasing to the ego.

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Interesting. But I still am getting plenty of dates regardless of any of that. :-P


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I've heard about that book, and I might check it out some time.


You'll save yourself some time if you just read it now. :P Why do all the leg-work when someone has already done it for you?

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Interesting. But I still am getting plenty of dates regardless of any of that. :-P


To what end?

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He's young and so are his dates. Dating at that juncture is an end in and of itself. Furthering a possible lifetime relationship is usually not one of the goals, but all too often one of the results.

Be a Boy Scout in at least one aspect Lex, always be prepared.

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Interesting. But I still am getting plenty of dates regardless of any of that. :-P


To what end?


It's fun and I'm being social. Also I will eventually get a wife sometime down the road. Why do you play video games?


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