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 Post subject: Anyone done Ironman?
PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 12:20 pm 
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I'm looking into this, considering a 2011 run.

If anyone has done this, I'd be interested in hearing about their experience, especially when it comes to the training that went into it.

For those that don't know it:

2.4 mile swim
112 mile bike
26.2 mile run

Must be completed in 16 hours. There's milestones you need to hit along the way also. For example, to continue on with the bike leg, you need to be done the swim in 2 hours 20 min.

I'm a relatively weak swimmer, so I need to work on this hard. I burn a lot of energy while swimming, so I might take a class on how to do this properly. I swam a mile before, in 45 minutes, and I was beat down afterward. Obviously, this is too slow and too much energy expended.


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I would suggest completing several marathons first and probably a few sprint or olympic length triathlons before even attempting an iron man.

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I think the longest distance I've run was maybe 10 miles. Ironman sounds cool but way to far on the endurance side of the spectrum for me. Have you done anything similar before Arathain?

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I've done bits and pieces, never anything similar, obviously. I've biked distance, but not 112. I've run close to marathon distances, never organized. I'm training for an organized marathon now. I swam a mile, once - again, I'm weak on swimming.

I've backpaced ~130 miles in 5 days before. My endurance is good, but I will need serious training.


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The marathon's not the concern, really. If you meet the other milestones, you'll have 7 hours to complete the marathon. You could walk it that fast (if you can still walk).


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My brother-in-law did several versions of the Ironman as part of his day to day routine, including the full blown one at least twice.

Perhaps I should mention he was an Army Ranger at the time, retired recently as a full bird Colonel.

His comment on it was if you train hard you will fail. Hard isn't good enough.

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Micheal wrote:
His comment on it was if you train hard you will fail. Hard isn't good enough.


LOL, that sounds like the sort of cliche an Army Colonel would say. Tell him not to worry, I'll give it 110% ;)

I'd be interested to know what he found the hardest portion to be, where he raced, and what training activities he found most beneficial.

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We haven't been in touch much since my wife passed. The man was always in peak physical shape back when we visited them. I remember his Staff Sergeant saying he had offered the forty soldiers who were doing PT with him a beer if they could beat 'the old man' in a 5k run. He bought three beers, the old man didn't know about the bet (and would have disapproved) just went out and did his best as he did everyday. He was about forty-three at the time. He was running against young men and women, teens and early twenties.

Swimming was his weakest segment, he was great at the sprints but the long swim was tough. Once he got out of the water and onto the bile he made up time quickly. However, running was where he shone.

I couldn't tell you what he worked on specifically, he did a regular rotation through every PT he could. Every day - seven days a week- 52 weeks a year, even on leave.

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Who HASN'T done Ironman?

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I've been a glade lurker for a long time and delurked this morning just so I could post some info for you :D
I can't go into much detail right now as I'm short on time today, so will post more later (maybe tonight) and will answer any questions you have. But, I've done many short distance triathlons, 3 Half Ironmans and 1 full Ironman.


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kylemcm wrote:
I've been a glade lurker for a long time and delurked this morning just so I could post some info for you :D
I can't go into much detail right now as I'm short on time today, so will post more later (maybe tonight) and will answer any questions you have. But, I've done many short distance triathlons, 3 Half Ironmans and 1 full Ironman.


Thanks, and /bonk! Welcome to the Glade!

I'm definitely interested to hear your intel. I'm in physical therapy for a back injury right now, and was directed to stop training, but I'll get back into it in 6 weeks (hopefully)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:00 pm 
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Thanks for the Bonk :D

It's been a long day and I'm about to get to sleep, so I'll to get you some info tomorrow. But first, I'll ask you a question.

Why do you want to do an Ironman?

The reason I ask is because doing an Ironman and all the training leading up to the race is not a logical decision, it's emotional. Logic says, "you're nuts, this is crazy!" But if you find something inside you that says, "you have to do this because..." then that will carry you through the training. Believe me, there will be days during your training when you will be wondering what in the hell are you doing this for. It's on those days that logic will tell you to stop this madness, but the emotional decision will keep you going.

Since I finished my first Ironman a couple years ago, I always tell people that the race itself isn't that bad if you've properly trained for it. It's the 4 or 5 months of day in/day out training that's the hard part. Even more so with a full time job and a family. I'm not telling you this to scare you, but to realize that will take a serious commitment on your part to get this done.

So, having said that, I'm off to bed for now. But here's a little motivation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh1yMnrb ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8l249bM ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EokseUskyDI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMvX6zRY ... re=related


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Good luck man. I like to stay in shape but damn, you're nuts.

Just make sure you're wearing something for VT when you do it!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:27 pm 
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kylemcm wrote:
Why do you want to do an Ironman?


I'm not doing anything else that day. ;)

I don't have a real good reason. I want to do it because it's crazy difficult.


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Yep, doing an Ironman is crazy difficult. But, really, the training is where it's at. In your original post, you asked about training. So, I'll give you a little insight into what I did.

First of all, I didn't have a swimming or biking background. Did a little track and cross country in high school (over 20 years ago), but wasn't fast at all. I had started running again in my mid-30s and over a couple years worked my way from local 5ks races to the Houston Marathon. While training for Houston, I started looking into triathlons. I used to watch the Hawaii Ironman on Wide World of Sports in the early 80s and always thought that would be something interesting to do.

I spent hours and hours online researching and reading triathlon forums. 95% of everything I learned about the sport came from these two sites:

Kickrunners is a very friendly, great bunch of people who are always eager to answer any questions a newbie triathlete would have. I've had the pleasure to meet and race with several of them. We have a close online group of people from all over the country, much like what y'all have here on the Glade.
http://www.kickrunners.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=46

Slowtwitch is the largest triathlon site. Thousands of triathletes from Pros to top age groupers to newbies post there. Not quite as close or friendly as Kickrunners, but anything you want to know about the sport can be found there.
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?forum=1

As far as training, I used a coach that I met through Kickrunners. After my first tri, I wanted to do a Half Ironman which was 6 months later and he helped me train and have a successful race. He then helped me train for and complete my first Ironman which was a year later at Panama City Beach, Fl. in Nov, 2008.

For Ironman, he started me on a 5 month plan, training everyday. Each week consisted of 3 swim workouts in the pool (M,W,F), one bike trainer workout with a short run after (Tue), one run workout of shorter distances and/or intervals (Thur). Saturdays was the long bike ride with run afterwards (which is called a "brick" run) and Sundays was the long run.

Swims included all kinds of drills and intervals and eventually got to where I was doing up to 3500 meters total for each workout.

Bike trainer also included drills and intervals that would kick my azz and got to where some of them were 90 minutes long.

Saturday bike rides went from 90 minutes at the start of training and increased each week, with a shorter ride every third week. Some ride were 5 to 6 hours with one 6 1/2 hour ride at peak training. My longest rides were a couple of 112 milers, a couple 115-120 milers, and one 126 miler. All of them with brick runs of 30 to 60 minutes after.

Thursday runs were about 60 minutes, and was usually a tempo run or maybe some intervals. Sunday long runs started around 6 miles and worked up to a 17 miler and a 20 miler.

The training would get rough sometimes. There were some long bikes were I was ready to just quit. The only problem was that I was 30-40 miles from home and the only way to get back was keep riding or call my wife. And I couldn't bring myself to call her, so I just kept going. The swim workouts would get very boring. Many times I'd be the last person in the pool just before it closed for the night. Many Saturdays I'd leave the house at daybreak, before the wife and kids were up, and wouldn't get finished til after noon, then I'd sleep for a couple hours. I never moved my yard, I paid someone to do it.

My wife was very supportive during the whole thing. I couldn't have done it without her patience and understanding.

But it was all worth it. Race day was an awesome experience. I was well prepared and had a great race. And there is nothing like running down the finish chute, hundreds of people cheering for you, your name and picture on the big screen and the announcer calling your name as you cross the line and declaring, "You are an Ironman!"


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:56 pm 
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dude, yikes - that's a ton of training. I don't think I can give it much more than 15 hours a week.


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Most weeks were 10-15 hours. Only during the peak training did it get longer and never got to 20 hours. And, I think peak training was for 3 weeks, then had 3 weeks of taper (easier) training just before the race.

15 hours a week is totally doable for Ironman training.


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Did you have any questions or anything? I'll try to answer anything you may have, or point you in the right direction.


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kylemcm wrote:
Did you have any questions or anything? I'll try to answer anything you may have, or point you in the right direction.


Right now i'm just making plans. My big question is where is the best pool around here? but I'll need to figure that out, obviously.


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