The Glade 4.0

My car doesn't have any electronic counter measures... the majority of the rest you listed are not actually within the purview of the "mechanic" to fix... diagnose with the assistance of a computer that runs the test yes, but not fix, other than to replace the unit/component...

Fine.

I give up. Life was better back in the 60's. Everything today sucks and is a pale shadow of the greatness that we once were.

Are you all happy now?

Which means, for instance, the societal level of education dropped because Dad can't go out and fix the Buick by himself anymore.

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I'd say it's more accurate to say that societies complexity level outstripped Dad's education/ability.

I didn't say the entire time, but I also cannot think of a degree program at any university (ignoring community colleges, associate degrees, etc... which wouldn't be needed if HS taught the proper material) that doesn't include freshman (and some sophmore) credits in classes that cover the exact same material as the high school classes... ie Western Civ, English, Algebra/Calc, Physics/Chem, etc. That is of course barring you exempted out of those classes via AP credits or similiar. But then, that begs the question, if the AP tests focus on verifying that the students are sufficiently versed in that material and don't need to retake it at the college level, shouldn't all HS grads be able to pass the tests if they were truly learning the material?

But to be more specific... there is nothing learned in the MSArch or the BA/SArch programs that isn't taught at the BS/ADesign level that actually applies to the profession (or didn't used to be, now that some schools have "re-organized to standardize the hours needed for graduation rather than knowledge level, that isn't the case).

Not really ... Evidence indicates the older generations are better at adapting to new technologies and shifts in the world order than younger generations. Indeed, the sweet spot for continued hiring through the "recession" was 42-55 for Males. And the majority of corporate CEOs still have degrees they started in the mid to late 60s. Society has shifted the value emphasis for education from breadth to depth, and that's a bad thing. When coupled with informational entropy, it means society as a whole knows and can transmit less information.

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Our equality comes from being treated the same by government regardless of how we entered this world, or our percieved harships or benefits.

If one is born alive then thats it - no special treatment or punishment from government from that point on.

That and only that is equality - anyone who thinks differently can go pound sand. Equality is not taking from some in order to try to make people more equal in the future - you see that verb "to make" that indicates an outcome.

If you want to tutor someone who you feel was born with hardships (like having to attend a public school) then go out and do it. If you want to steal anyone else's money to do good - you're a theif, a liar to yourself, and deserve to be shot like any theif when you try to commit your crime.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

This of course explains why all the older generations get their 15 year old neighbor kid to fix their computer.

I agree that the emphasis on education has changed from depth to breadth. Jury is still out on if that's a bad thing. Given the modern ability to store and transmit data, I don't think I agree with your last sentence.

Wrong context from Khross' meaning.

You are making claims that you are not substantiating. You are taking unwarranted assumptions and presenting them as a fait accompli. You have established nothing. You have no proof, no rationale, no argument. You have, in fact, only assertions and repetition.

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Except when they don't right?Except the modern ability to store and transmit data is precisely why less information changes hands. The E-Mail/Text Message phenomenon isn't new. They were talking about it in the late 60s and early 70s: the faster you can get a message to someone, the less information that message contains. The more messages you can get to someone, the less valuable each message becomes in terms of information.

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Apparently I was using the wrong context for Khross' message... I thought it was a comment about the lack of conversational ability on topics outside of pop culture and the degradation of understanding versus referencing.

That's all part of it, too, Ladas.

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Actually I wasn't thinking about email/text messaging. I agree that those formats are not condusive to transmitting good information.

I was thinking more along the line of the various methods of digital media that are available these days. Training videos, online books, interactive training tools, forums, etc. There are huge amounts of detailed data available these days that are very portable.

Those things very often contain less information than a well written technical manual ... which has become something of a joke these days I suppose.

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That explains the quality of this forum....

Certainly the signal to noise ratio of the internet is fairly low. However, there is some really great quality information out there if you know how to look for it.

I personally found a lot of information on A/V equipment when I was in the process of deciding what system to purchase, and found a number of online resources invaluable. I've had similar experiences with motorcycle websites, in dealing with specific problems on my bikes or when looking for guidance.

But I think I'm done with this thread, because really everything has now boiled down to a glass half full or half empty argument.

My assumption is not unwarranted at all. Ability to understand based on context is a basic facet of being able to communicate in both written and verbal form.

The rest of this is just you trying to score points by loudly insisting I need to re-establish basic, well-known facts. Would you like me to prove that oceans contain water too?

This is just pompous, pedantic bullshit.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

You know, it's not that you're intellectually lazy that is so bothersome, it's that you get so defensive about it.

Since you offered, I would indeed be interested in viewing your formal proof.

Is this the assumption you've been working on since my first response, thus causing you to ignore all meaning I have attempted to convey to you since?

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Are you going to make a point any time today, or just continue to post obtuse bullshit?

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Since you offered, I would indeed be interested in viewing your formal proof.


No, this is a matter of observing your pompous, pedantic, and pointless nonsense in this thread.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I've already made points. Ignoring them does not make them go away.

You are correct you don't need to. But you offered to do so, so reneging on that just shows you as a welsh. Whether it is observable is irrelevant. Observations aren't proof, they are merely data points. I have observed that Sol appears to crest the eastern horizon every 24 hours plus/minus some time interval accounted for by seasonal variations. I am reasonably certain this recurrence will continue for a period of time long enough that I don't have to worry about it. I conclude the latter from the data points collected in the former. But that's not proof. Likewise, while you may have observed audiences that (you thought) comprehended something you were presenting, you can't prove it, nor can you extend that to a blanket statement that audiences reliably comprehend the meaning of whatever it is the speaker intends. As another example, I have observed that I absorb a disproportionate amount of bad beats while playing poker. The reason for this is actually well established. If I pull my hand histories, the percentages actually match up with what they're supposed to, but what stands out in my mind, and what I remember the most, is the times I get beat by a low percentage hand.

Obviously you would think so, since you disdain intellectual pursuits. Not that I think you will, but can you summarize my position in this discussion?

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Racist! That kind of casual, unthinking disparagement of my Welsh heritage really gets my Irish up.

I'm saving your post as a remind of epic fail.

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I did a Google search for Missouri license plates. The first one that turned up was 848RHH. What are the odds that, out of all the Missouri license plates that have ever been issued, I would have seen that particular plate?! Isn't that just amazing?!

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