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This is just getting crazy nuts. My alma mater KSU could find itself left in the Big 12 with just ISU, KU, and Baylor/Colorado. The whole college football landscape is on the edge of changing and I wish it would just get done and over with so I could know where we sit.

Nebraska to the Big 10 (with Mizzou likely to follow), Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Colorado all to the PAC-10.

/mourn Big 12

This is devastating news for the four remaining teams. Including my alma mater KSU.

Frack the Big 10. Frack Nebraska.

Is this really happening? I heard rumors, thought it was just a bunch of hot air. Why expand the Pac-10? I just don't get it.

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Yeah, it is really happening. Nebraska moving to the Big 10 is a done deal, with a formal announcement on Friday. K-State's played Nebraska for over a hundred years.

And with Texas, A&M, Tech, OSU, and OU going to the Pac-10, Notre Dame will be forced to join the Big 10 (with some Big East schools joining them).

There's only one OSU in the Pac-10, and it sure as hell ain't from Oklahoma. WTF.

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I could understand re-alignment if it were for competitive purposes, but separating traditions like Oklahoma/Nebraska (among others) just for the sake of "Mo' Money" is just sad.

I suspect Notre Dame will end up in a conference somehwere too.

The PAC-10 will cease to exist as it is now and will become something like The Gigantic 24 or something.

I could see some new rivalry's forming out of this .. perhaps a Texas/USC rivalry could be fun to watch...

/shrug

It doesn't feel right to me....

I like ESPN's idea:

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Crap, and I was ambivalent about Penn State in the "Big T1e1n." This is just **** ridiculous.

I do like the U of P thing, though, that's funny. Why not??

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Well Colorado has already jumped ship. Who's next? I hear the SEC is looking at Texas A&M.

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Cause Uof Phoenix has no sports teams?

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Holy shitsnacks!

Teams like Kansas, KSU and the Iowa schools are going to get boned in this deal.

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I believe, from what I heard on the radio this morning. Kansas and one of the Iowa schools will be invited to the Big Ten. I could be wrong, I was only half paying attention.

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Well, Iowa is already in the Big 10, and I don't think they are going to be kicked out, so they are fine. ISU is screwed though. As far as I've heard, KU has not been invited into the Big 10.

Yeah, but I mean, why not let 'em have football team? Just a funny thought.

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A PAC-16 would be kinda neat. Figure maybe a Coastal division (Cal, UCLA, USC, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State) and then an Inland division or whatever they'd want to call it (Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and then Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech if that rumor pans out).

If the SEC drinks the kool-aid, I'd like to see them raid the ACC and pick up Clemson, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech and one of Florida State or Miami. I think I'd rather have the 'Noles.

Of course my reasoning is very different than that of conference heads. I read the PAC-10 went for Colorado and not, say, Baylor, because of the Denver TV market. I want those ACC teams because of rivalries. The SEC has Alabama/Auburn, Ole Miss/Miss St., TN/Vandy - would be neat to add Georgia/Ga. Tech and SC/Clemson and such as in-state conference rivalries to be played that last weekend before the conference championship (thinking just football there).

Start thinking basketball and it's a whole different ballgame.

Well its official. Nebraska announced a move to the Big 10. Next move is Texas'.

Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac 10 (Pac 15?). Kansas next ?

I think A&M is just bluffing and will end up in the PAC10, but I could be wrong.

There is a lot of talk of KSU, KU, and Mizzou joining the Big East. That is looking somewhat likely.

Good grief, the Big East would be pushing 20 teams at that point wouldn't it? Off the top of my head I thought they already had 16... Okay forget my idea of raiding the ACC for four teams. Go all out and let the SEC and ACC merge Four six-team divisions, 11 game regular season instead of 12, and then a four team, single elimination conference championship. If the NCAA won't do a playoff, just Borg all the conferences until your conference championship is the de facto national title!

And maybe trade the Big East Boston College for West Virginia, straight up.

Also Iowa State, I forgot them in my post. They would be joining the Big East in that scenario. And yeah, in basketball (and man would that be a tough conference after adding KU, KSU, and Mizzou). But for football it would be a 12 team conference.

Big 12 dies

Or

Big 12 lives

Looks like the Pac-10 got played.. UT (and the other big 12 schools) ended up leveraging a pretty nice TV deal...

Well, it looks like the PAC-10 (and their fans) got played by UT and the rest of the Big12 teams. I'm inclined to believe that they had no intention of leaving the Big12, and that they were just using the Pac10 move as leverage to get the better TV deal (for themselves and the rest of the conference). I also think that orangebloods.com, which is a heavily biased fan site trying to play itself off as a hard nosed sports journalism site, was in on it the entire time (either that or they got played too). As far as I know, they were the only ones who were claiming to have inside knowledge of this huge conference swing... and as it turns out, it was all a big play....

I doubt that. I think it was all but a done deal, until this morning, or maybe yesterday. I don't think Texas thought that any TV deal could be put together to rival the Pac-10 offer without Nebraska or Colorado. That the Big 12 and Fox were able to put a deal together that not only came fairly close to matching the Pac-10 deal, but also enabled them to start their own network (something the Pac-10 wouldn't allow) was a paradigm shift. Only something as major as that could have prevented the move.

All I can say is...whew. Things were looking very bleak indeed for K-State.