The Glade 4.0

Remember!
When your ideology doesn't match reality, just keep repeating yourself over and over; eventually you'll either convince people or lullaby them to sleep with your wrongness.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Well, DFK, you and Elmo are excellent examples of that sort of thinking.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

I don't know why this, of all threads, got my attention on one of my weekly perusals for rare bits of useful information, and I only read the first page before I realized it's all the same crap all over again, but Micheal sits right on the edge of wisdom, without actually taking that final logical step.

Is Monte's debate style lacking in reason? Of course it is. Is there any point to engaging in any of these arguments? Of course there isn't. Shuyung's mistake isn't in his argument itself, but rather in the scope of his argument. Montegue's posts may be the most obvious of them, but he's not substantially different from the rest of you. Nor for that matter, from anyone else arguing on the Internet. It's all bloody pointless. Just about everyone here--and on every other Internet discussion site--is the same way. You're all self-appointed victims crying foul at every disagreement in a transparent attempt to lend some validity to your usually illogical views. There's a reason I left all of this.

What I can't figure out is why I decided to post in another one of these parasite-ridden flame-fests, though, other than that with the ubiquitous nature of this behavior on the 'net, perhaps it just compells the worst in human nature out of all of us.

Later.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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It is only pointless if individual's have never taken to new positions or been introduced to new facts and had those new facts incorporated into their body of knowledge.

I know that has happened with me and I know it has happened with others. The fact that Monte may never change does not stop the fact that others reading and/or engaging in thread won't. In fact Monte is arguably the perfect foil against which the lunacy of the opposition's views can be discredited in their own eyes.

I think Monte is one of the three main contributing factors to this sections of the board's libertarian leaning perspective which I will point out was formed over time - it most certainly did not start out this way.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Hey look, Taly came on over to show us how stupid we all are for posting here and how much better she is than the rest of us - by posting here. That'll learn us. Kudos.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

I think arguing with the opposition keeps you sharp, usually. Granted the dumbed down shout fests are annoying, but even those have a small bright side buried deep... deep, deep, down. I think.

Speaking for myself, I've never learned more about world events than when I started arguing with others about politics.

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“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general”. - Mark Rippetoe

This is a forum... a soapbox for some, a mechanism for expression for others, a place to form community for others, etc, etc, etc. It's not a place of great truths or bastions of reason. Monte is Monte, one has to accept him as he is 'cause there's not going to be any changes there...

The chance of people here thinking folks can be changing fully formed opinions is really a stretch. For instance, the muppet would have to want to celebrate Lincoln's birthday before I would believe he could change his opinion, or promote a welfare program. This is a guy that still has problems with his parents for telling him Santa exists, for crying out loud! I don't think he's capable of change, but that's no biggie 'cause I don't think someone with a fully formed opinion should be influenced by anonymous internet opinions... change comes from within, not without.

That said... some folks could stand some change from within. They might even find themselves having an opportunity for a caring and romantic relationship with someone else if they could integrate the ability to compromise into their personality....not that I'm holding my breath. As it is, I think it better to minimize the possibility of procreation.

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In time, this too shall pass.

Eventually, every thread becomes about Monty. See OP.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

I think Montegue posts the way he does for the excitement he gains from the reactions. I know because that's what I've done many times.

aka trolling.

When you step in someone else's ****, it is awesome to comment on how stinky it is, because it's not your ****.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

I dunno, I've come to see that politics just isn't polite conversation. I don't engage people I like in political discourse unless I'm sure it'll be okay. People don't like to be told their wrong about something they might feel strongly about. I don't mind so much, cause I'm wrong all the time, but some people don't like the friction it causes. I've known a few people where I could safely talk about whatever and not worry about it, but you have to find people that like to talk about it and don't get angry. You have to make sure you don't raise your voice and remain polite.

The internet is the exact opposite, we can scream at each other all day for the benefit of hearing ourselves... type. We're all guilty of it I think. We never get tired and we never have to deal with each other when we don't have to. I think the internet may be the worst place to communicate ever. At least not anything of importance. Let tell you about my favorite bands and my mood on FB though!

I think we should never ban Monty again. It never lasts, so lets stop bothering. I was under the impression that this time it was "Super srs guyz. I am so cereal. Banned 4eva."

Also, we should make a thread dedicated to Taly's massive ego! Muahaha! Tongue in cheek! Tongue in cheek!

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Pretty sure I have never been banned from this board in particular. I was suspended for a bit, but not banned. Being a vocal liberal poster in a conservative echo chamber comes with a certain price.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

That's funny. None of the other libs around here have been suspended. Why do you suppose that is?

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The Dude abides.

Fixed.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Ah, logic in the face of adversity.

I'm betting you'll be ignored. Any takers?

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In time, this too shall pass.

You never fail to produce, Nitefox. I suppose the other liberals haven't been suspended or banned because they have a much lower "eh, **** it" line than I do.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

I've got 5 says he ignores it for a day.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Read my edit for you. You = *******. Them = not *******.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Like I said, you never fail to produce. The second part of my post, for the reading impaired, is directed to Screeling.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Nah, its cause they're not argumentative douchebags.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Well, it's good to be consistent I think. I can be consistently counted on to give you **** every time you open your mouth and spew forth the crap you do. You can be consistently counted on to be a libtard without a clue.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

You could do that. I you like. Or not. No skin off my back. Sounds like it's a lot off yours, though. I love the new slur, though. Libtard.

Libertoonian? Lolitarian? Conslaveative? Rethuglican? Not sure which I like better, to be honest.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

This, boiled down is:

U mad bro?

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Holy shitsnacks!

Not sure what your first sentence was. Learn English or something. But really, nothing off my back at all. You're an easy target and I've been bored.

Yeah, cant' take credit for the libtard thing. Pulled it off somewhere else. Makes a lot of sense though. Fits you very well in my opinion.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."