The Glade 4.0

Yeah, but as much as I hate Apple (and I own a 3GS, so I have intimate knowledge of the crappy built in idiosyncrasies) and as much as I like the idea of Android OS, your droid phone is a piece of ****.

When they can get their OS to run a little bit smoother than Suttering Stanley trying to rap like Tech N9ne, I might consider switching.

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I don't like permanent covers. They bulk up the phone and make holsters not fit properly (or be ginormous themselves to accommodate the bulked up phone).

Then they're clearly better designed for durability? I mean, is that the point you're trying to get at? If not, I don't think this is helping your argument.

Rafael, last weekend I made the hop from iPhone (3G, in case you're wondering) to an Android phone. I've got no complaints on the speed so far. Hell, it's not even one of the super-fast uber-geek Androids, like the Nexus One, Droid, or Incredible. It's faster than my iOS v. 3 iPhone 3G, and the web browser kicks Safari mobile's *** even on Edge.

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Kaffis, my original point had nothing to do with the difference in design between the 3GS and 4. My original point was, if you're going to buy an iPhone4, it would be retarded not to get a case for it. Since any sane person would be buying a case for it, reception issues are negated.

Again, I don't know that I would. Well, more likely, if the durability of the iPhone 4 sans case is such an issue, I just would opt not to buy an iPhone 4, but if I did, I'd use it as sold with no bulk enhancing aftermarket products. Because that's how I use my phones.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

How so?

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Holy shitsnacks!

Kaff,
I submit that many iPhone4 cases are not as thick as you think. Also, something slight like an InvisibleShield from Zagg would probably be enough to fix reception issues.

I'm not Rafael, but I passed up the Droid (and the Incredible, and the Evo) because I'm done with CDMA. GSM or nothing, I refuse to let a carrier hold me hostage with my hardware.

Raf: I'm just speaking from experience with my iPhone 3G. I don't do clip and knob cases anymore, after too many bad experiences with the moving parts wearing and leading to random detachment back on my old Razr. But I do insist on a belt holster, and one with a minimal profile to keep me from catching it on doors and the like. My experience with my previous iPhone was that any time somebody tried to talk me into adding a gel case, or hard plastic vanity shell, or whatever, it simply wasn't going to slide into any acceptable holsters anymore.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Considering the iPhone4 is thinner than the 3GS, adding a silicone case to it would make it fit old holsters perfectly.

Steve just had a little presentation about the iPhone4 and its antenna issues. Here are some cold facts:

0.55% - Percent of people that called AppleCare about antenna issues
< 1 more per 100 - Amount of dropped calls, compared to 3GS
1.7% vs 6% - Return rate of iPhone4 vs 3GS

Free case provided by Apple for anyone that has an iPhone4, plus a refund for those that have already paid for one. If you still aren't happy with the phone, return it for a full refund no restocking or anything. Next software update is going to work on increasing the sensitivity of the proximity sensor.

Is this supposed to indicate something good?

The average across all U.S. cell phones is ~1 dropped call per hundred. If the 3GS has an average dropped call rate (I don't have specific numbers for Apple devices), then saying the 4G drops one *more* call per 100 is basically saying you are doubling the dropped call rate?

This sounds to me like Apple is saying that the iPhone4G hardware itself is responsible for 1 dropped call per 100 calls over the other possible causes (radio, network, call handling, etc..)?

If that is true...

wow...

Depends on whether you read that as less than 1 more dropped call per hundred calls, or one more dropped call per hundred dropped calls.

I read it as the latter - 1% difference.

I read it the way Midgen did. Their guys are slick enough to recognize that as an ambivalent wording; I can't imagine if it was intended to be read the way you did, Sui, they wouldn't clear it up. It's phrased that way to make people assume your reading, while really meaning Midgen's, I think.

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/appl ... r-100-tha/

Apple: iPhone 4 drops 'less than one additional call per 100 than the 3GS'

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The question is not whether its one dropped call additional, but whether its per 100 dropped calls or per 100 attempted calls.

I do not believe it can possibly be the second if they claim there is no real issue. That would be pretty significant.

I guess it's just me, but the answer to that question seems pretty clearly to have been answered.

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I still think it was a terribly bad move on Apple's part to implicate their rivals in this self created monster they have on their hands. Rather than just apologize and give out the cases/bumpers, they dragged their feet on the issue. They first stated how it was the way people were holding it. Then, this leaked. Finally, after testing their competitions phones, they discovered it wasn't their fault their phone has a bad antenna.

By implicating their competition, they opened up the door to be made a fool of. First of all, the competition has already responded. Surely Steve didn't think they'd take it kindly to have their name thrown into this "antennagate" mess, did he? HTC fired right back, stating how they have less than "two-hundredths of 1 percent" of antenna related complaints, much lower than Apple's touted 0.55% complaint number. They also said you can hold their phones however you want, since they take the antenna reception more seriously than any other feature of their phones, including cosmetics.

Apple really didn't do themselves too many favors with their press conference, except to their already loyal fan base. It wasn't until the very end of the conference that they informed everyone they'd offer free cases. They brushed everything under the rug and then offered people a case for their troubles. On top of that, they threw their competition under the bus. Ouch! Being an Iphone user myself, I still can't believe Steve Jobs and Apple. They really do think they can get away with whatever the hell they want, as long as they assure their loyalists that everything will be fine.

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The 4 is now mine. Also, they sold me the new otter box that isn't out till Sunday. Only complaint with the case is the ear bud flap isn't lined up with the actual hole.

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