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I think that was my point, but you expressed it better.

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Yup. And that's sh*tty. I don't lump you guys in my with cheating ex or those guys who sexually abuse their daughters. If I did, if I said 'Most guys are mentally ill freaks incapable of controlling their own penis who only care about asserting their power' you'd (rightfully) jump my sh*t.


Please do not think that I feel it is right. It is just simply how many men function. I myself know that I am more neurotic than anyone else I know. I see the bad **** I do; because I assume others see it quicker and heavier than I do.

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It is just simply how many men function.


I beg to differ, thanks very much....

Generalizing men's behavior is no better than generalizing womens behavior.

At least you are consistent :P


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At least you are consistent :P


I aim to piss everyone off equally?

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It truely is offensive to see the comments of all women are lying cheating whores..

I could easily say all men are **** dickheads that need to show their power by beating up women..but wouldn't that be a stupid statement.

I married one that turned out to be a dickhead, and I prolly will have some trust issues and need more reassurance in my next relationship, but all men do not fit the same mold, just as women do not also.

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The anger isn't even with women, it's with myself, but it's easier to project it on to women than to feel like **** all the time. If it makes me feel a little bit better, what do I care if some women are insulted? They aren't the ones having to deal with bouts of depression for a month at a time. What is your indignation in the face of that? Nothing.

It's not about you. But it's just like a woman to think it is. ;)

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Let me get this straight.

1. You hate yourself, but it makes you feel better to project that hate onto women by calling them lying whores.

2. Your suffer from bouts of depression for months at a time, and it doesn't matter to you to insult women because they are selfish, lying whores who don't care.

3. All women are lying whores and make everything about themselves, because that is just the way all lying whore women are.

4. You have no fault, whatsoever, because you are not a lier or a whore, and just seek knowledge so you can understand the lying whore women of the world.

hmmm hard to say anything to logic such as this. :shock:

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Kirra, I think (hope) this is a guy thing.

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Kirra, I think (hope) this is a guy thing.

Let's just say that I disagree - if the problem is generalization then further generalization can hardly set things to right.

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The anger isn't even with women, it's with myself, but it's easier to project it on to women than to feel like **** all the time. If it makes me feel a little bit better, what do I care if some women are insulted? They aren't the ones having to deal with bouts of depression for a month at a time. What is your indignation in the face of that? Nothing.

It's not about you. But it's just like a woman to think it is. ;)


So... you think it's OK to blame someone else for your problem, and don't really care who you hurt by it? And you accuse women of thinking it about them when it's really all about you, of course? Is that an accurate summation of your position on this issue?


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Kirra, I think (hope) this is a guy thing.


I hope it's just a few guys. The rest seem pretty reasonable, even if they often let this sort of ranting slide because it's not aimed at them. Men, then 'lying whores' he's talking about are your mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters. It's not just people without penises who should be offended by misogyny.


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I tend to brush off conversations like this, because men are stupid, ignorant, flaming balls of testosterone who are completely incapable of dealing with their own emotions when they have them.
Really. It's not their fault.
Men are emotionally retarded.

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Personally, I think it's finally dawned on me that most women are lying whores. When I look at it like that, a lot of things make more sense to me.

It's not just women.


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This.

Bros can be the biggest Hos.

So, rhetorical, general questions to you all out there. Have you always told the truth in every situation? Have you ever lied to get what you want? Have you betrayed a friend, ever, for any reason?

Glass houses, stones, think about it.


Nobody said it was only women. The subject, at the moment however, is women who do it, specifically, lying about being married. That does not mean we need to consider every other form of dishonesty right along with it.

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My point, honestly, is that the level of misogyny on this board is appalling and insulting.


Except that there isn't any. You're getting all pissy because it's women under the microscope in this particular thread.

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It's my perception that when women bash men here they go after a SPECIFIC man (this guy is an ***) while the women bashing is less specifically aimed (most women are liars and whores).


If you ignore all the snide, irrelevant man-bashing in threads unrelated to gender issues, perhaps. There's plenty going both ways.

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Yup. And that's sh*tty. I don't lump you guys in my with cheating ex or those guys who sexually abuse their daughters. If I did, if I said 'Most guys are mentally ill freaks incapable of controlling their own penis who only care about asserting their power' you'd (rightfully) jump my sh*t.


No one is lumping all women together. They are lumping all women who act this way together. I'm not taking this as some sort of shot at my wife or my daughter, and there's no reason you should be taking it as a shot at you, or at all women.

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The anger isn't even with women, it's with myself, but it's easier to project it on to women than to feel like **** all the time. If it makes me feel a little bit better, what do I care if some women are insulted? They aren't the ones having to deal with bouts of depression for a month at a time. What is your indignation in the face of that? Nothing.

It's not about you. But it's just like a woman to think it is. ;)


So... you think it's OK to blame someone else for your problem, and don't really care who you hurt by it? And you accuse women of thinking it about them when it's really all about you, of course? Is that an accurate summation of your position on this issue?

Enough pain and folks will retreat... and after a retreat if there is still pain, some will try to protect themselves by erecting barriers between themselves and the source of their pain.

I've seen guys and gals do that very thing. It's hardly a gender thing, it's just a thing people do.

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My point, honestly, is that the level of misogyny on this board is appalling and insulting.

I'd agree with that. There have been several threads, comments and posters who make my head snap back.

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DE, maybe I have missed the man bashing threads, but all I wanted to point out is that the words and generaliztion is offensive to me. There have been enough comments to catch my attention, and I have been wondering why. I have bashed my exhusband and that's it. I enjoy reading the Glade, there are some incredible people here and I love the laugh factor. Sure, everyone has some bad experiences, apparently Wwen has had quite a few, which has caused him to be like he is. That's unfortunate, but it just bothered me that it has been more lately in several areas.

Now..what can I do about it? Nothing, ignore it..or make a comment like I chose to do. I think a woman that lies about being married is wrong, just as a man who does this is wrong. But to lump all women and men into this catagory to really wrong. I just wanted to make a comment to this effect. I can choose not to read certain peoples threads and put them on ignore, maybe that is the answer, or I can choose to state my opinion.

*shrug*

It's just the Internet, but I don't feel that way about some of the people here. I respect them and enjoy their jokes and commentary on the many subjects here.

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DE, maybe I have missed the man bashing threads, but all I wanted to point out is that the words and generaliztion is offensive to me. There have been enough comments to catch my attention, and I have been wondering why. I have bashed my exhusband and that's it. I enjoy reading the Glade, there are some incredible people here and I love the laugh factor. Sure, everyone has some bad experiences, apparently Wwen has had quite a few, which has caused him to be like he is. That's unfortunate, but it just bothered me that it has been more lately in several areas.


Evidently you have missed the man-bashing threads, or more specifically, the snide comments that make their way into threads about other stuff, like I already said. There's been no shortage of those over the years and we have a few posters who think they're just oh-so-cute when they do this.

Moreover, no one is saying "all women are like this". Wwen evidently has had more than one experience like this, and he seems to think it's not coincidence that he has. You, on the other hand, have apparently been the victim of just one really bad experience. Wwen is specifically directing it at women because he's not into men and therefore the fact that men do it also isn't relevant to him.

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Now..what can I do about it? Nothing, ignore it..or make a comment like I chose to do. I think a woman that lies about being married is wrong, just as a man who does this is wrong. But to lump all women and men into this catagory to really wrong. I just wanted to make a comment to this effect. I can choose not to read certain peoples threads and put them on ignore, maybe that is the answer, or I can choose to state my opinion.

*shrug*

It's just the Internet, but I don't feel that way about some of the people here. I respect them and enjoy their jokes and commentary on the many subjects here.


I don't see where anyone is lumping all women into that category. Wwen might be saying it's all the women he meets, which would tend to indicate he needs to go about meeting different women somehow.

Like I said, however, this thread is about women doing it. That doesn't mean it's somehow mysogenistic to not mention men doing it as well since they aren't relevant to the OP who isn't interested in men. This attitude of "cricticizing women in general is mysogeny, but cricticizing men is just good fun" has been around on a wide scale since the Cosby show first aired. After hearing this lecture for 30 years, I'm tired of the double standard.

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I tend to brush off conversations like this, because men are stupid, ignorant, flaming balls of testosterone who are completely incapable of dealing with their own emotions when they have them.
Really. It's not their fault.
Men are emotionally retarded.


Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but on the chance it isn't...

Bullshit. Some men are emotionally retarded mysogynist assholes. Putting up with it only condones it.

Men should be called on it and I completely agree with Taamar's comments in this thread.


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Let me get this straight.

1. You hate yourself, but it makes you feel better to project that hate onto women by calling them lying whores.

2. Your suffer from bouts of depression for months at a time, and it doesn't matter to you to insult women because they are selfish, lying whores who don't care.

3. All women are lying whores and make everything about themselves, because that is just the way all lying whore women are.

4. You have no fault, whatsoever, because you are not a lier or a whore, and just seek knowledge so you can understand the lying whore women of the world.

hmmm hard to say anything to logic such as this. :shock:


You don't get it. I don't hurt anyone but myself. It's not like I run up to people and shout "WHORE." at them. You act like I'm a monster, just because I'm a maladjusted loser. See, we don't even speak the same language. Women aren't really all lying whores. But now that I've vented I feel a bit better, unlike some of you, I don't have support from family or friends, so I have to go annoy people on the internet.

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So, has anyone thought that the woman who doesn't wear a ring says she's married... when she really isn't? Maybe she's not married, but is attracted/turned-on to the type of man who would go after a willing and married woman. Forbidden fruit, and all that jazz.

If she is married, it could just be what I've seen a million times: Some women need to get a rise out of a man, just to continue to feel validated and wanted (and it is uncommon because they actually want to progress to the physical act). It's the whole emotional side of sex, instead of the physical (this is science/chemistry here, not "Men are better than women huh huh huh") for women I think that drives some of them to do this.

It really all just boils down to insecurity. If you are getting attention, even if it's the wrong kind, it can feel good.

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Aizle: It was sarcasm. Mostly. ;)

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Kirra, I think (hope) this is a guy thing.


I hope it's just a few guys. The rest seem pretty reasonable, even if they often let this sort of ranting slide because it's not aimed at them. Men, then 'lying whores' he's talking about are your mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters. It's not just people without penises who should be offended by misogyny.

I'm not going to get too bent out of shape over random misogyny until everyone else starts getting upset about the misandry that is rampant in this country ;)


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You don't get it. I don't hurt anyone but myself. It's not like I run up to people and shout "WHORE." at them. You act like I'm a monster, just because I'm a maladjusted loser. See, we don't even speak the same language. Women aren't really all lying whores. But now that I've vented I feel a bit better, unlike some of you, I don't have support from family or friends, so I have to go annoy people on the internet.


Yea, but it doesn't really accomplish anything substantial. If I find a woman who even admits she is a whore, calling her that doesn't accomplish anything, just like calling me self-absorbed isn't going to really accomplish anything. It might make you feel better temporarily, but that's like shooting up to get rid of the withdrawal symptoms from coming down after shooting up.

Lack of friends or family isn't any excuse. I don't live near my friends or family, and I find a way to deal with **** like what I thought my life was going to be crumbling into nothing and finding out my job sucked and the long term prospectus was much worse. I took up lifting (even moreso than before), went to the beach, learned to snowboard, got into submission grappling/brazilian jiu jitsu, went to the boxing gym, learned to cook some new stuff, got shot down by girls I had no chance with,injured my ankle, suffered a concussions and rib injury, laid down my R6 on a gravel patch and put the thing back together with no experience, picked up girls I thought I had no chance, went sober, nearly broke my hand on some guy's forehead, drank more tequila than should be legal (JOKE, I'm for personal liberties), smoked some terrible weed, got arrested and dismissed, went to bed early on the weekend ...

You don't need friends of family to do any of that stuff and not have to worry about whether or not women might be whores.

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Kirra, I think (hope) this is a guy thing.


I hope it's just a few guys. The rest seem pretty reasonable, even if they often let this sort of ranting slide because it's not aimed at them. Men, then 'lying whores' he's talking about are your mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters. It's not just people without penises who should be offended by misogyny.

I'm not going to get too bent out of shape over random misogyny until everyone else starts getting upset about the misandry that is rampant in this country ;)


I am... what the hell happened that made it OK to portray every father on TV as a lovable dope who needs his wife to keep him from licking the electrical socket? I wish society would quit acting like people are only defined by whats in their pants, like all men are exactly alike and all women share some sort of hive mind. But it shouldn't be tit-for-tat where you only care about someone else getting screwed if they care that you're getting screwed. Creating a better world isn't zero-sum where there's a certain amount of hate that has to be used up somewhere.


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