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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:06 am 
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wait a minute ... I thought everyone quit WoW


Nah, they reverted the change they had planned that caused us to be all up in arms.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:14 am 
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So that explains the dodge trinks. The -20% dodge thing in ICC was unfair to DK and bear tanks I thought.
Eh, they're both stamina trinkets. They're just better than the Corroded Skeleton Key as far as on use abilities goes.


So what would you replace them with if you had a billion DKP ;)

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And what do you mean using IT as a crutch?
Icy Touch was changed because we don't proc Rune Strikes in ICC. And spam dumps or Double Touch rotations build threat at the cost of DPS and flexibility.


Gotcha. And besides, if you have DPS that know what they're doing, threat shouldn't be a problem really :)

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Gotcha. And besides, if you have DPS that know what they're doing, threat shouldn't be a problem really :)
Well, seeing as how I am gemmed properly and have pretty decent gear, my DPS is generally in the 5.5 to 6k range on a normal boss fight. It's in the 8+ range on Festergut. So, my threat isn't an issue so much as you might think. But if I were just stacking pure stamina, I'd need Icy Touch Spam just to keep the mob.

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Khross, you've got Sovriegn Dreadstone listed under Red slots for tanking with one set of stats and Blue for DPS with different stats. Is that an error or are there actually 2 different colors of sovreign dreadstone?

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It's a purple gem, so it qualifies as both colors at once.

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It's a purple gem, so it qualifies as both colors at once.


But then how does it have 2 different stats? Do purple gems have different stats based on what slot you put them in?

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It's a purple gem, so it qualifies as both colors at once.


But then how does it have 2 different stats? Do purple gems have different stats based on what slot you put them in?
It's 10 STR 15 STA in both listings, DE.

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It's a purple gem, so it qualifies as both colors at once.


But then how does it have 2 different stats? Do purple gems have different stats based on what slot you put them in?
It's 10 STR 15 STA in both listings, DE.


Huh, so it is. Sorry about that; I must have read it wrong.

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It's a purple gem, so it qualifies as both colors at once.


But then how does it have 2 different stats? Do purple gems have different stats based on what slot you put them in?


Primary colored gems....Red, Yellow, and Blue....all have one major stat. (example: Bold Cardinal Ruby +20str)

Mixed colored gems.....Purple, Green, and Orange....have a mix of stats. (example: Accurate Ametrine +10 expertise and +10 hit)

Primary gems give you the benefit of major stats usually, and give a bigger amount to that stat, but only count as ONE color. Mixed gems give less to a stat, but give a mix of stats, and count as TWO colors. This is important in that it allows you to activate socket bonuses and meta gem requirements.

Prismatic gems cover all bases in terms of color. A prismatic gem will count towards every color, thus having one socketed in your gear will usually make it much easier to make the requirement on your meta gem in your helmet. The most popular prismatic is the Nightmare Tear, because it's the highest value gem of that kind....+10 stats. You can use the lesser versions if you don't have the gold, or it's a piece of gear you will quickly replace.

Meta gems all have a requirement. Some are harder to achieve depending on your spec. For tanks you would want to get a meta that would be mostly blue gem dependent, since you are likely to be using mostly stamina gems.

As a general rule (not all) purple gems will give you a stat plus stamin. Green gems are going to give you mp5, and orange gems are going to give you +hit. Of course there are some different combos, but if you are looking for those stats, that would be the gem to look for.


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wait a minute ... I thought everyone quit WoW


I quit, despite reversal of the proposal to use real names on the forums because I really read the Battle Net ToS.

When I got the game, my information was only to be used to bill me. Now it is to be sold to anyone. Sorry guys, I don't need my real name and private contact out there to be data mined and googled. Krolick has written that he has private information on about 4000 people at Harvard and he offered to give it to another man. That man asked how he had this, and Krolick said "They gave it to me, the suckers."

It's been over two weeks and they have still not deleted my data, nor even answered the e-mail despite putting in a formal request. Will be getting my attorney involved.

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