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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:47 pm 
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FINALLY! I'm getting what I paid for!

It only took them 5 visits...

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Well, it is hard to find a good I.T. or cabling professional that needs a job these days....

oh wait.


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FINALLY! I'm getting what I paid for!

It only took them 5 visits...


Wow, how accurate is that site? Mine really sucks, and although I have only a dim recollection of what speed I should be getting, I don't think it's this bad:

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Edit: Waitaminute, I thought you were in St. Louis, Taskiss? Isn't MI kind of far away for you?

Huh. DSLReports.com says about the same thing:
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It more depends on what networks you're transiting, really.

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Oh yahhhh!

Go go 56k modem?!

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My wife and I work from home - I host webex meetings all the time and she runs db exports to network smb shares regularly, so we went for the 66 Mb/s offering from Charter.

While testing, I found that it's rare for a site to actually transmit/receive anywhere near fast enough to fill the pipe, except for Iron Mountain.

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See, this makes me wonder how much my wireless router is affecting my download / upload speeds. Is there some sort of guide (that you can recommend) that has good tips on making that work as best as possible?

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Nevandal wrote:
See, this makes me wonder how much my wireless router is affecting my download / upload speeds. Is there some sort of guide (that you can recommend) that has good tips on making that work as best as possible?

... Your wireless router is probably faster than the bandwidth you get from your ISP, unless you have a terrible signal and lots of interference, or do a lot of wireless to wireless traffic while downloading off the internet on a third device.

802.11g is rated at 54 megabit. Granted, that's a nominal value, but considering the average "high speed internet" bandwidth today is probably in the 7-15 megabit range, there's a lot of room for non-ideal conditions before you start seeing the bottleneck in a typical home wireless network.

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Taskiss wrote:
My wife and I work from home - I host webex meetings all the time and she runs db exports to network smb shares regularly, so we went for the 66 Mb/s offering from Charter.

While testing, I found that it's rare for a site to actually transmit/receive anywhere near fast enough to fill the pipe, except for Iron Mountain.

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That's interesting, thanks.

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Nevandal wrote:
See, this makes me wonder how much my wireless router is affecting my download / upload speeds. Is there some sort of guide (that you can recommend) that has good tips on making that work as best as possible?

... Your wireless router is probably faster than the bandwidth you get from your ISP, unless you have a terrible signal and lots of interference, or do a lot of wireless to wireless traffic while downloading off the internet on a third device.

802.11g is rated at 54 megabit. Granted, that's a nominal value, but considering the average "high speed internet" bandwidth today is probably in the 7-15 megabit range, there's a lot of room for non-ideal conditions before you start seeing the bottleneck in a typical home wireless network.



That's true. Actually, it's a gigabit router, but sometimes I wonder if the signal slows things down anyways.

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The wired switch is gigabit. The wireless access point ain't.

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When I was setting my house up for wireless, I tried not to spare much expense. I upgraded to a Docsis3 modem, 802.11n dual band (2.4ghz/5ghz) router and matching dual band receivers for each of my electronics that needed one.

I've been pretty happy. Download average is probably 3.2MBps (25-26 Mbps?). Having the 5ghz connection doubled my speeds easily, even with the same internet plan. Guess we had a lot of interference on the 2.4 band.


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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
The wired switch is gigabit. The wireless access point ain't.



hmm...interesting

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Go go 56k modem?!


Nah just "middle-of-nowhere" quality cable hehe.


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Nevandal wrote:
See, this makes me wonder how much my wireless router is affecting my download / upload speeds. Is there some sort of guide (that you can recommend) that has good tips on making that work as best as possible?


Tom's Hardware did an article last year on where the bottlenecks for networking speed are, and surprisingly (to me anyway), it turns out the hard drive is probably the biggest problem:

While in real-world situations, the network will be severely bottlenecked by the hard drives. In a synthetic memory-to-memory scenario we demonstrated that our plain-Jane gigabit network delivered speeds very close to the theoretical 125 MB/s gigabit limitation. Typical drive-to-drive network speeds in a real-world situation will likely be limited from 20 to 85 MB/s, depending on the speed of the hard disks.


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RangerDave wrote:
Nevandal wrote:
See, this makes me wonder how much my wireless router is affecting my download / upload speeds. Is there some sort of guide (that you can recommend) that has good tips on making that work as best as possible?


Tom's Hardware did an article last year on where the bottlenecks for networking speed are, and surprisingly (to me anyway), it turns out the hard drive is probably the biggest problem:

While in real-world situations, the network will be severely bottlenecked by the hard drives. In a synthetic memory-to-memory scenario we demonstrated that our plain-Jane gigabit network delivered speeds very close to the theoretical 125 MB/s gigabit limitation. Typical drive-to-drive network speeds in a real-world situation will likely be limited from 20 to 85 MB/s, depending on the speed of the hard disks.


While this is definitely true for an internal gigabit Ethernet network, I would be surprised if it ever comes into play as soon as anything hits the internet. Typical current internet speeds (even FiOS) are nowhere near a standard hard drive throughput.


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While this is definitely true for an internal gigabit Ethernet network, I would be surprised if it ever comes into play as soon as anything hits the internet. Typical current internet speeds (even FiOS) are nowhere near a standard hard drive throughput.


Mm, good point.


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RangerDave wrote:
Nevandal wrote:
See, this makes me wonder how much my wireless router is affecting my download / upload speeds. Is there some sort of guide (that you can recommend) that has good tips on making that work as best as possible?


Tom's Hardware did an article last year on where the bottlenecks for networking speed are, and surprisingly (to me anyway), it turns out the hard drive is probably the biggest problem:

While in real-world situations, the network will be severely bottlenecked by the hard drives. In a synthetic memory-to-memory scenario we demonstrated that our plain-Jane gigabit network delivered speeds very close to the theoretical 125 MB/s gigabit limitation. Typical drive-to-drive network speeds in a real-world situation will likely be limited from 20 to 85 MB/s, depending on the speed of the hard disks.



Oh yeah, I'm definitely aware that the hard drive is one of the biggest bottlenecks....but sometimes it seems like my performance would be better if I whipped out a 10 foot ethernet cable versus going wireless. Know what I mean?


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Are you comparing a wireless laptop to a wired desktop, Nev? Remember that most laptop drives spin their platters slower to conserve power. There's a significant difference in hard drive read/write speed there.

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After running a quick test on that I have to say that sites results are BS because this is what it gave me for a rating

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Sadly my internet connection chokes sometimes even on standard-def netflix streaming and I've never seen anything over 6mbps on any other speed test site, CNET'com's speed test for example which I ran immediately after came in at 1262.8 kbps


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It's not BS, Sas, it's just not the whole story. Physical distance doesn't mean a whole lot when you're dealing with Internet sites. You actually need to measure wire distance, hops, and congestion.

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Sasandra wrote:
After running a quick test on that I have to say that sites results are BS because this is what it gave me for a rating

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Sadly my internet connection chokes sometimes even on standard-def netflix streaming and I've never seen anything over 6mbps on any other speed test site, CNET'com's speed test for example which I ran immediately after came in at 1262.8 kbps


Comcast will burst much higher speeds for the first 10 seconds of an internet connection. This is their "speed boost" or whatever name they use for it. After the burst, your speeds will settle down to normal rates. Speedtest.net doesn't send a large file, so you will see Comcast's burst throughout the process.

To really see your speeds, you need a good, solid, large file hosted by a good site. What I've been using lately?

http://www.batmanarkhamasylum.com/demo

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