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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:38 pm 
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People are a bit unobservant...

Its SFW. :)

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Wow.

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Holy ****.

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cant see the video from work but if this is what I think it is, its not a matter of people being observant so much as the way the brain identifies things.

I assume this is some variant of the phenomona described in "The man who mistook his wife for a hat"


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Astonishing. I'm curious how many were shown that did realize...but still, that's a helluva lot of people that didn't.


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And some serious changes later on. I mean, gender?

Pretty fun.

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TheRiov wrote:
I assume this is some variant of the phenomona described in "The man who mistook his wife for a hat"
Not really, this is a guy approaching random strangers on the street to ask for directions and then substituting another person in his place behind a pre-arranged visual obstruction mid-conversation.

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Way to spoil it so people will be looking for it now the first time or two.

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The phenomona I'm referring to involves an individual with a specific kind of neural degeneration in one particular part of the brain. The man compensated by identifying individuals based on a different set of markers than 'normal' people do. Example, he might recognize someone by their gait, but couldn't identify their face.

Our brain uses shortcuts to identify things, it isn't so much lack of observational powers just making sure the replacement person has those same markers.

(again, though I have not been able to see the video though)


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Anyone notice that the visual distraction is always a portrait of the first guy?

I'm wondering if that assists in "wiping the slate," confusing the target by making them associate the face in question with the large picture that went by rather than the person to whom they were talking.

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I think it isn't so much about wiping the slate as it is about making sure the subject's mind associates any lingering memories of the first person they're talking with, with the portrait so their mind doesn't cry foul.

I've learned a huge amount about the way our minds process information in the last few months, this is really quite interesting.


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I think that most were very suspicious or aware of the person swapping, but didn't want to cause social drama.

Also reminds me of this expirement:

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Field Independence versus Field Dependence
A number of experiments in the past thirty years have been designed to study what psychologists call "Field Dependence" and "Field Independence."

Imagine this scene: A person is seated in a darkened room. Ten feet in front of this person (the subject) stands another person holding a luminescent square frame surrounding a luminescent straight rod. The room is darkened; all the subject can see is the frame and the rod. Both the frame and the rod are mounted on an axle, so they may each be rotated in both directions.
The person holding the frame and rod rotates both at random for a while. The frame is stopped and the rod con-tinues moving for a while. The person holding the rod and frame then says to the subject, "Tell me when the rod is straight up and down, the same as the walls outside."

Some people will make the rod straight up and down by using the square as a frame of reference. These people are called "field dependent" because they depend on the context or field provided by the frame to judge when the rod is perpendicular.
Other people line the rod straight up and down with regard to their own bodies. These people are called "field independent" because they operate independent of the square as a frame of reference.

Another variation of this experiment has the subject strapped into a tilting chair inside a room that tilts. Motors tilt both the room and chair and stop at some point at random. The subject is instructed to give verbal instructions to the operator of the motor that moves the chair to make himself line up straight. Field dependent subjects will tolerate up to a 33 degree angle of tilt and will say they are aligned with the walls outside as long as they are tilted in the same direction as the room. Like those who depend on the frame to judge the angle of the rod, these field dependent people depend on the tilt of the room to adjust the tilt of the chair in which they sit, even though their own bodies are telling them they are not sitting upright.


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There's a TED talk about this apparently.



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