The Glade 4.0

"Turn the lights down, the party just got wilder."
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:46 am

View unanswered posts | View active topics


Board index » The Glade » Entertainment

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 2
  [ 42 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
FarSky
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:42 am 
Offline
Near Ground
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:38 pm
Posts: 6782
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Another interesting take.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Aizle
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:36 am
Posts: 4320
That's a great write up by Cavalorn.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Nitefox
 Post subject: Re: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:37 pm 
Offline
The King
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 am
Posts: 3219
The only real issue I had was...


Spoiler:
What was Davids motivation for slipping Liz's bf the black goo? It seemed as if he had direction to do that by the way he carried it out but they never even hint to him being directed to do so in the movie(that I could tell). And being an android, anger/revenge/malice or whatever shouldn't play a part. Weyland's whole deal was just cheating death. Or was it an implied thing and you'll find out something else in the next one(there has got to be another one...please let there be another one).

_________________
"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Slythe
 Post subject: Re: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:28 pm
Posts: 476
Location: The 10th circle
Nitefox wrote:
The only real issue I had was...


Spoiler:
What was Davids motivation for slipping Liz's bf the black goo? It seemed as if he had direction to do that by the way he carried it out but they never even hint to him being directed to do so in the movie(that I could tell). And being an android, anger/revenge/malice or whatever shouldn't play a part. Weyland's whole deal was just cheating death. Or was it an implied thing and you'll find out something else in the next one(there has got to be another one...please let there be another one).


Yes, that was one of many issues I had with the film.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Aizle
 Post subject: Re: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:36 am
Posts: 4320
Nitefox wrote:
The only real issue I had was...


Spoiler:
What was Davids motivation for slipping Liz's bf the black goo? It seemed as if he had direction to do that by the way he carried it out but they never even hint to him being directed to do so in the movie(that I could tell). And being an android, anger/revenge/malice or whatever shouldn't play a part. Weyland's whole deal was just cheating death. Or was it an implied thing and you'll find out something else in the next one(there has got to be another one...please let there be another one).


Spoiler:
I think he was trying to help. David understood more than anyone what the purpose of the goo was, and that's why he only put it in the drink when the guy said he'd do anything to find out the truth, etc. He was attempting to help the guy "evolve" or grow into the next stage of whatever.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Slythe
 Post subject: Re: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:00 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:28 pm
Posts: 476
Location: The 10th circle
I think I'm going to go see it again. After thinking about the film some more, and reading a couple in-depth reviews and analyses, there were definitely some deeper themes I missed. I still say the film was too muddled, but hopefully I'll appreciate it more.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Wwen
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:26 pm 
Offline
Peanut Gallery
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:40 pm
Posts: 2289
Location: Bat Country
The guy from Lost was involved, so...

_________________
"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Numbuk
 Post subject: Re: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:53 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:40 am
Posts: 3188
Aizle wrote:
Nitefox wrote:
The only real issue I had was...


Spoiler:
What was Davids motivation for slipping Liz's bf the black goo? It seemed as if he had direction to do that by the way he carried it out but they never even hint to him being directed to do so in the movie(that I could tell). And being an android, anger/revenge/malice or whatever shouldn't play a part. Weyland's whole deal was just cheating death. Or was it an implied thing and you'll find out something else in the next one(there has got to be another one...please let there be another one).


Spoiler:
I think he was trying to help. David understood more than anyone what the purpose of the goo was, and that's why he only put it in the drink when the guy said he'd do anything to find out the truth, etc. He was attempting to help the guy "evolve" or grow into the next stage of whatever.



Spoiler:
I originally thought that too. But my wife pointed out that that maybe David was jealous of the BF in some weird way, since we know he was dream-stalking her and we didn't see him do that to anyone else. And the BF was kind of a dick to the robot in several scenes.

_________________
Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Shelgeyr
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:28 am 
Offline
Sensitive Ponytail Guy
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:18 pm
Posts: 2765
Saw it yesterday afternoon, then sort of binged on reviews, theories, and commentaries for a couple of hours afterwards.

FWIW: my take on it is that it's a great prologue piece. It doesn't tell much of a story on its own, and it by no means answers all the questions, but it lays the groundwork for future storytelling and baits the hook with the unexplained bits.

I walked out of the theater wanting to see more, and I think that was the point.

_________________
Go back to zero, take a pill, and get well ~ Lemmy Kilmister
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Aizle
 Post subject: Re: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:36 am
Posts: 4320
Numbuk wrote:
Spoiler:
I originally thought that too. But my wife pointed out that that maybe David was jealous of the BF in some weird way, since we know he was dream-stalking her and we didn't see him do that to anyone else. And the BF was kind of a dick to the robot in several scenes.


Spoiler:
Possible, but if so then why ask him about what he would do to learn his origin, etc. David was very careful to not contaminate his drink until after he answered that question. I think it was just cold reasoning, with no human insight.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Slythe
 Post subject: Re: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:48 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:28 pm
Posts: 476
Location: The 10th circle
Spoiler:
I just read the first review linked earlier by FarSky, and at the end of it there's a series of video links. The first one is fantastic, which pretty much points out all of the questions/problems I had with the film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-x1YuvUQFJ0
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Raltar
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:18 am 
Offline
I am here, click me!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:00 pm
Posts: 3676
I went and saw it tonight. Fantastic film.

Spoiler:
Clearly, this is not the ship we see in Alien and in Aliens. The planet in Prometheus was planet LV-223 and the planet in Alien and Aliens was LV-426. So, either Scott is ignoring Aliens and beyond or something else. I guess Dr. Shaw could go off and find other engineers and they could come back to LV-223 after they kill her and pick up the alien(I think it was a queen, what with the jaw coming further out of the head...really reminded me of the queen is introduced in Aliens) only to have it lay eggs and kill everyone, crash landing on LV-426.

I have to say, I really liked the giant face hugger. That was cool.

_________________
Los Angeles Kings 2014 Stanley Cup Champions

"I love this **** team right here."
-Jonathan Quick
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Darkroland
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:40 am
Posts: 4281
Shelgeyr wrote:
Saw it yesterday afternoon, then sort of binged on reviews, theories, and commentaries for a couple of hours afterwards.

FWIW: my take on it is that it's a great prologue piece. It doesn't tell much of a story on its own, and it by no means answers all the questions, but it lays the groundwork for future storytelling and baits the hook with the unexplained bits.

I walked out of the theater wanting to see more, and I think that was the point.


This was my take as well. I believe my exact words were "a beautiful world building movie with some action scenes."
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Lonedar
 Post subject: Re: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:00 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:58 am
Posts: 1596
Aizle wrote:
Numbuk wrote:
Spoiler:
I originally thought that too. But my wife pointed out that that maybe David was jealous of the BF in some weird way, since we know he was dream-stalking her and we didn't see him do that to anyone else. And the BF was kind of a dick to the robot in several scenes.


Spoiler:
Possible, but if so then why ask him about what he would do to learn his origin, etc. David was very careful to not contaminate his drink until after he answered that question. I think it was just cold reasoning, with no human insight.


I just got back from seeing it tonight. Here is my thought

Spoiler:
I think David was programmed with some sort of rudimentary morality (to prevent him from releasing a deadly neurotoxin or something) but was also programmed to find a way to "save" Weyland. He was doing an experiment, but could only do it on a "willing" participant. Hence he gave the dude what he asked for and got to monitor the results.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
SuiNeko
 Post subject: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:06 am 
Offline
Eatin yur toes.
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:49 am
Posts: 836
Saw it yesterday. Fantastic, in a cool clinical detailed sort of way. 3d didn't bother me too much either. 8/10!
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
SuiNeko
 Post subject: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:12 am 
Offline
Eatin yur toes.
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:49 am
Posts: 836
Nitefox wrote:
The only real issue I had was...


Spoiler:
What was Davids motivation for slipping Liz's bf the black goo? It seemed as if he had direction to do that by the way he carried it out but they never even hint to him being directed to do so in the movie(that I could tell). And being an android, anger/revenge/malice or whatever shouldn't play a part. Weyland's whole deal was just cheating death. Or was it an implied thing and you'll find out something else in the next one(there has got to be another one...please let there be another one).


I thought a creeping undertone of the movie was that despite everyone telling David to his face he has no soul or emotions, he in fact does, and is very very angry about it. "the secret is to not mind that it hurts" "doesn't everybody want to kill their parents?" "I suppose I would be free"

If you view it that way, drunk dr was astonishingly rude to him. He's a person treated as an appliance - blade runner style.
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
SuiNeko
 Post subject: Prometheus (2012)
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:20 am 
Offline
Eatin yur toes.
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:49 am
Posts: 836
I really don't think David was helping. He could read the writing on a warship full of WMD well enough to pilot it, wake aliens, navigate star maps. He doesn't tell anyone it's a warship full of weapons. He opens doors to bomb bays and calls them cargo. He does this despite the dr saying do not touch the vase bombs, and to be more cautious about opening the doors.

He never translates anything for them - and heads to open the door by the 'broken' drone that sees life signs without fixing it or reporting what was there.

He has his own agenda ;)
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 2 of 2
  [ 42 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

Board index » The Glade » Entertainment

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 61 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group