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I... is this real?

This could just be the most entertaining show, ever.


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Wow. Wish I had cable.


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Holy crap.

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So, wait...is this a scripted show shot Cops style, or is this a real Cops show with Steven Seagal going around busting real life people? I don't have sound.

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From what I've been able to figure out, he really is a deputy sheriff of Jefferson Parish. The crews will apparently be following them around for real calls, unscripted.

This is what I found on A&E's website when trying to see if it was real or a spoof.

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A&E is in production on "Steven Seagal: Lawman," a new Real-Life series that will chronicle martial arts expert and international film star Steven Seagal's extraordinary life in law enforcement, it was announced today by Robert Sharenow, Senior Vice President Non-Fiction & Alternative Programming, A&E Network.

Seagal's movies have grossed more than $2 billion worldwide. He is an expert martial artist, with a 7th-degree black belt in aikido. Along with Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Chuck Norris, he's considered one of the film industry's greatest action stars. But it turns out that Steven Seagal isn't just an action hero in the movies. For almost 20 years, Seagal has been working as a fully-commissioned deputy with the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office in Louisiana. In fact, in addition to going out on patrol, Seagal is an expert marksman who has worked with their SWAT team and has instructed Jefferson Parish officers in firearms and hand-to-hand combat.

"I've been working as an officer in Jefferson Parish for two decades under most people's radar," said Seagal, "I've decided to work with A&E on this series now because I believe it's important to show the nation all the positive work being accomplished here in Louisiana - to see the passion and commitment that comes from the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office in this post-Katrina environment."

"Steven is a hero both on and off camera and helps fight crime because he cares about the community," said Sharenow, "It's such an amazing revelation that this larger-than-life star has been doing real police work for nearly 20 years."

Until now, Seagal has never sought publicity for his work with the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office. However, over a span of almost two decades, he has regularly gone out on patrol and worked major cases. The series will allow fans to ride shotgun with Seagal as he and his hand-selected elite team of deputies respond to crimes-in-progress. Then, when Seagal goes off-duty, the cameras will continue following him as he pursues his many ventures - including musical performances and philanthropic efforts - in Jefferson Parish and New Orleans.

"Steven has a very close relationship with the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office and I'm proud to have him as part of our team," said Sheriff Newell Normand, "I cannot tell you how honored I am to not only be affiliated with Steven, but with A&E and all their support in highlighting the efforts, the trials and the tribulations of the men and woman of the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office."

Steven Seagal is best known for playing the invincible action hero character that defined his career in such films as Above the Law, Hard to Kill, Under Siege (1 & 2) and blockbuster hit Exit Wounds. His familiarity with his signature roles stem from a long personal history with Eastern culture in both studying martial arts as well as practicing Buddhism. He is also a recording artist and guitarist, is founder of Steven Seagal Enterprises that markets his own all-natural energy drink "Steven Seagal's Lightning Bolt" and is a dedicated philanthropist and activist for environmentalism and animal rights.

Steven Seagal: Lawman is produced for A&E Network by Granada America and Steamroller Films. John X. Kim is the Executive Producer, Lucas Platt is the Co- Executive Producer, and Anna Geddes is the Series Producer for Granada America. Steven Seagal and Phillip B. Goldfine are Executive Producers for Steamroller Films. Joe Halpin and Binh Dang are Producers for Steamroller Films. Executive Producers for A&E are Robert Sharenow and Neil A. Cohen.


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Along with Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Chuck Norris, he's considered one of the film industry's greatest action stars.


While I like his movies for what they are, putting Steven Seagal(and even Chuck Norris) with Stallone and Schwarzenegger is kind of insulting. Seagal and Norris are tier 2, at the most. While Willis, Stallone, Schwarzenegger would be tier 1.

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Along with Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Chuck Norris, he's considered one of the film industry's greatest action stars.


While I like his movies for what they are, putting Steven Seagal(and even Chuck Norris) with Stallone and Schwarzenegger is kind of insulting. Seagal and Norris are tier 2, at the most. While Willis, Stallone, Schwarzenegger would be tier 1.


Depends on your metrics.

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Segal is a better martial artist than Norris ever was. He's a bit of a loon, and kind of an ***, but he really knows his ****. Stallone and Schwarzenegger are just as bad as Segal, they just had bigger budgets.

Bruce Willis is on a higher plane than the rest of them, though, without a doubt.

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Stallone and Schwarzenegger have charisma. Seagal doesn't. But, like I said...I still enjoy Seagal's movies. I'm just an 80s action movie kind of guy. It's what I was raised on.

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Stallone and the Governator have the charisma of a giant truck full of uncharismatic things. I, too, heart the 80s action flick (there's a new ninja moving coming out!), but one is forced to look back on the past not with Red Dawn colored glasses, but instead with a mild sense of amusement about what used to rivet a person to their seat.

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Interesting. Might have to watch that.

I should be known that in the Aikido world Segal is generally viewed as a great embarrassment and he's not considered to be very good.


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Now that's a show I'd watch. And since I watch extremely little tv (seriously, maybe 2 hours a week) that's saying something.


Now... if we could just get the Karma Lords to give us a filmed shot of a criminal walking by a video store and saying something like "Steven Segal? I could kick that fatty's ***!" And then cut to: Steven Segall kicking the living crap out of him.

How much praying to the Karma Lords do I have to do to get that to happen?

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Actually, you'd probably be disappointed. Likely, he would simply and quickly contain them. Aikido is nice like that. Steven Segal is very high on my "do not **** with" list.

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You doubt Arnie's charisma? Charisma is all Arnie has. Never had acting ability, but damn he could make people like him.

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In order to come to the reasonable conclusion that Arnie has no charisma, one must only watch the Conan movie in which he is trapped in the fighting pit and gets his ear chewed on.

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It's painful. Arnie had a lot of high budget movies that carried his sorry ***, a very impressive physique, and sometimes good costars to carry him.

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Oh c'mon, how can you say Kidnergarten Cop was high budget? It was in the same awesomely bad category as most of Joe Pesci's movies (The Super comes to mind).

And Aikido, while impressive in a demonstration, lends itself to to situtions only where the defender can anticipate an attack or is simply a better athlete. I'm sorry, but any non-Greco wrestler would pose serious problems for an Aikido practioner, especially one who is physically conditioned. Luckily, Segal actually is rather athletic and also has his size advantage.

Nevertheless, it'd be far more entertaining if he practiced combative Capoeira. Now THAT would be entertaining to watch him use as a law enforcer.

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In order to come to the reasonable conclusion that Arnie has no charisma, one must only watch the Conan movie in which he is trapped in the fighting pit and gets his ear chewed on.

"OW OW MAH EAYAH MY EYAH!!!"

It's painful. Arnie had a lot of high budget movies that carried his sorry ***, a very impressive physique, and sometimes good costars to carry him.



Ability to act, or even speak clearly, is not tied in to charisma. Arnie is incredibly likeable. He's so likeable, just about everyone loves his movies and his role in them despite being fully aware of his suspect acting.* That's the very epitome of charisma.






*- suspect acting at least in his early movies. Some of his later stuff has proven he does comedy quite well, if not drama.

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Arnold became a Republican governor. This proves he has no charisma.

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Arnold became a Republican governor.


In California, no less. A Republican immensely popular with one of the more liberal states in the USA.

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That just shows he made a deal with Satan.

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Oh c'mon, how can you say Kidnergarten Cop was high budget?


I can't, you're right. But it was horribad. And he was horribad in it.

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It was in the same awesomely bad category as most of Joe Pesci's movies (The Super comes to mind).


In this, we agree.


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And Aikido, while impressive in a demonstration, lends itself to to situtions only where the defender can anticipate an attack or is simply a better athlete.


My not being dead says otherwise. There are a few martial arts that I think are *incredibly* practical in real situations - Jui Jitsu, Aikido, Krav Maga, and boxing. Rondori training in Aikido teaches you to act with intention in the most dire of circumstances. I honestly think that it's some of the best hand to hand combat training I have ever received, and I have a lot of hand to hand combat training under my belt.

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I'm sorry, but any non-Greco wrestler would pose serious problems for an Aikido practioner, especially one who is physically conditioned. Luckily, Segal actually is rather athletic and also has his size advantage.


Neither of which he needs. Look, he was an American teaching Aikido in Japan. This was almost unheard of. They don't let you do that unless you know what you're doing. Before he was famous, he was a well respected teacher of the art, and he trained law enforcement and (if you believe it) special forces and the CIA.

Dude is very, very dangerous.
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Nevertheless, it'd be far more entertaining if he practiced combative Capoeira. Now THAT would be entertaining to watch him use as a law enforcer.


At risk of offending, Capoeira is fail. Or at least, I have yet to encounter a practical combative form of the art. That being said, I *love* it, and wish I could do it.

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Yes but Kindergarten Cop he definitely was likable, despite his poor acting. I think the appeal of him in movies has to do with the fact he's like Tim Allen with an Austrian accent: he portrays a dumb guy you can't help but like.

As for Aikido, it's not that I don't believe in its practicality, but that like I mentioned, where the defender is likely a better athelete or at least better conditioned in terms of reaction time and is more agile and dexterous than his attacker. The technique simply gives him more confidence. This not unlike Judo (especially those who practice Randori), Jiu Jitsu or Gracie's Jiu Jitsu style. Remember that Jiu Jitsu is simply a competitive form of combat-applicable technique.

As for seriously praticality, Muy Thai and Pradal Serey can be incredibly effective, but like Marquess of Queensberry rely on extraordinary physical conditions (like JKD levels) in order to be effective. The knee is probably easily the single most destructive blow in any fighting technique. In fact, I remember seeing a show where they tested the impact of different striking techniques on crash test dummies, and the knee from the Thai clinch did damage similiar to a 35 mph car impact.

Also Capoeira I didn't intend to make it sound like some sort of incredibly effective art. I have seen some techniques (spinning cartwheel kicks) produce KO's because the defender was unfamiliar with the technique and got distracted and struck before he was able to react. I guess that's more of a JKD concept, though than any strength of Caopeira.

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I should be known that in the Aikido world Segal is generally viewed as a great embarrassment and he's not considered to be very good.


This has been my experience as well (I would expand that sentiment to the martial arts world in general).

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He's an ***, no doubt. But before he was famous, he was a *very* good and successful instructor. He may have a bad reputation, but his skill and knowledge should not come into question. A lot of the opposition to him comes from what essentially amounts to racism. Also, he's an ***.

Don't that that fool you into believing he's a hack, though. He knows his ****.

Raf - if I have ever learned anything, it's the artist is significantly more important than the art, and any good artist will be in fighting shape. I also should have mentioned JKD and Kali.

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I watched this tonight. It was basically just Cops, but it has Steven Seagal which made it actually watchable. Think I'll be watching this regularly.

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