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Seems would take out the excitement of the fake PAT for a 2 point conversion. I can't see many teams risking that 2 if you have to cover 25 yards..

Yeah, extra points are easy. They're supposed to be. That's why it's a tough call to go for 2. This would also reduce the value of a touchdown. As is, touchdown is basically worth 7 points. It would still be more valuable than 2 field goals, but not by as much.

Leave it alone.

Noone runs a fake PAT anyway. If a team goes for two, its 99% of the time an actual play.

I'd like to see it backed up a bit, Dunno about a 42 yarder though.

Or the rugby thing where the try has to be converted from the point on the field the td was scored from. Score on the left sideline, kick the ball from the 10 yard line from the left sideline.

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Holy shitsnacks!

The change would be to make the line of scrimmage for point after kick attempts the 25 yard line. This would effectively make the kick 42 yards.

The significance is that statically, 40 yards is where the odds of success drop somewhere south of automatic.

Back on the 60s, the success rate for PAT was about 75%. Now it's close enough to 100% that it's not worth discussing.

Moving it back might make the coaches think a little harder about going for a 2 point conversion, thus bringing a little more drama to the game.

Bad weather excluded, as it is now, the PAT is just a waste of time. They might as well just make the Touchdown worth 7 points, with the option to run a play to score the 8th.

Kickers would object of course...

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I thought the plan was TD = automatic 7, if you opt to go for two you can get 8 if you make it or lose one (net 6 pts) if the attempt fails?

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I don't think there is a 'plan'... it's' just stuff 'people' are talking about...

My bad I thought the rules committee had taken up that debate.

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By 'people', I suppose the rules committee would be included. :p

I would think it would have to be what Hop is suggesting. If it's an automatic 7 with the option to try to score another point, that's what every team would do. There has to be some disincentive to going for the 2.

Of course, there was always Lane Kiffin, former USC coach, who repeatedly would go for 2-point conversions when there was no need to. Like, on the first TD of the game. It was weird.

Ah, here's an example:



I didn't realize he had taken it to that extreme.

Edit: Jeez, never checked to see that I had screwed up the quote.

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People just hate kickers. I am betting this is some kind of evil plot by the owners. They want to remove the kickers from the game all together. They take up roster slots that could be better used on extra linemen or wide outs. Not to mention, the cap space. In ten years, there will be no kicking in football.

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I feel like this is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. What's wrong with extra points the way they currently are? I don't mind that they're nearly certain. It gives you some time to soak in the touchdown that just occurred, view some replays, high five your friends, etc. There's also a nice finality to it, really hammering home the whole "we just scored a touchdown" thing.

In theory we could remove extra points altogether, and the kickoff, and immediately after someone scores the refs could place a ball on the opponents 20 yard line and start the next series. The overall strategy of the game would be the same for the most part, but it wouldn't feel right.

In an ideal world, I think it'd be nice if we could increase the defense's chance of blocking an extra kick slightly, like 1-2%. I wish there was a slim chance of a block, especially on those big game tying extra points at the end of a game. But I'm not sure there's any rule change you could do that would work but be subtle enough.

Jetpacks for the defenders.

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the rule changes preventing defensive players from climbing on the back of their teammates and stacking all of the players on one side is partly what contributed to the extra point becoming mostly automatic...