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Do you trust them?
Yes, I trust them implicitly and have no issues. 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
For the most part, they're alright, but there are bad ones. 55%  55%  [ 23 ]
Eh. I stay to my side, they stay to theirs. Leave me alone. 21%  21%  [ 9 ]
Not so much. Most are power tripping asses that would taze you. 19%  19%  [ 8 ]
**** PIGS! **** PIGS SHOULD ALL DIE! 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
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Poll or something.

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I can see Rynar voted. :twisted:

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The poll is broken - there's no option for "Farsky is gay."

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I can see Rynar voted. :twisted:

Yes, I trust them implicitly and have no issues.

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Awww, I figured you took the bottom option.

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http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/06/joseph-harvey-jr-killed-in-alleged-i-97-road-rage-incident-89870.html

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A New Jersey man has been charged with murder and manslaughter after allegedly shooting and killing an Anne Arundel County man Saturday night in a violent road rage incident.

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Joseph Walker (Photo: Maryland State Police)

Maryland State Police officials have charged 40-year-old Joseph Walker with second-degree murder and manslaughter in connection with the shooting, which killed Joseph Harvey, Jr., a 36-year-old Halethorpe resident.

Walker, an Eastampton Township, N.J. resident, is being held at an Anne Arundel County jail on $1 million bond. He is an officer with the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office in New Jersey.

The shooting happened at about 8:30 p.m. Saturday on I-97 near the Route 3 interchange near Millersville. The incident began, though, when police say Walker cut Harvey off while trying to turn onto Route 3.

Harvey then drove onto the shoulder to try and avoid a collision, then nearly hit Walker's car while continuing to drive on the side of the road, according to a police report.

Authorities say that the two drivers then tried to intentionally swerve into each other, at which point Harvey's passenger told police that Walker pulled out a gun and pointed it at them.

A short time later, both Walker and Harvey pulled over and both got out of their cars. Walker got out of his minivan and yelled that he was a police officer. At that point, police say Harvey approached the suspect in what they call an "aggressive manner."

That's when officials say Walker pulled out a gun and shot Harvey in the leg. His passenger was not injured. Harvey was taken to the Baltimore Washington Medical Center, where he later died.

After the shooting, Walker was taken to the same hospital complaining of chest pains.

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So, it's cop-related, but this guy was off duty so, whatever.

Anyway, Harvey was a friend of mine. Genuine nice guy.

You know, if you're going to be involved in a road rage incident, and pull your car over, get ready to brawl. There may just be words. But if you're worried about your safety, don't pull the car over.

Knowing Harvey, I am highly dubious that there was any physical aggression by him.

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It says he's an "officer with the prosecutors' office." I'm not exactly sure what that is, but unless NJ has some really weird setup, he was probably misrepresenting himself as a cop (on top of everything else.)

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Very sorry to hear you lost a friend, AK. My condolences.

Regarding this point:

Arathain Kelvar wrote:
You know, if you're going to be involved in a road rage incident, and pull your car over, get ready to brawl. There may just be words. But if you're worried about your safety, don't pull the car over.

It sounds from that article like maybe Harvey pulled over because he thought continuing on was going to result in an accident. I've been in a similar situation myself where the other driver cut me off and kept slowing down and swerving to prevent me from passing until we were only going about 20 mph on a 65 mph highway. I considered just pulling over to the side and stopping rather than continue to risk an accident, but I decided that was probably an even bigger risk precisely because he might stop as well and pull a gun on me. Fortunately, we came to an exit after a few minutes of this nonsense, and I was able to cut over and exit after he was already passed the ramp. He hit his breaks and obviously was considering backing up to follow me, but I guess he'd finally had enough and kept going. Anyway, the point is, I can definitely see how your friend's decision to pull over might have been a defensive move rather than an aggressive one. Even getting out of his car could be construed as defensive, since it would be hard to defend yourself from a seated and seat-belted position if the guy approaching you decides to attack, although in that case, it would probably be better to wait in your car until he gets out of his and then just speed away.
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Very sorry to hear you lost a friend, AK. My condolences.

Regarding this point:

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You know, if you're going to be involved in a road rage incident, and pull your car over, get ready to brawl. There may just be words. But if you're worried about your safety, don't pull the car over.

It sounds from that article like maybe Harvey pulled over because he thought continuing on was going to result in an accident. I've been in a similar situation myself where the other driver cut me off and kept slowing down and swerving to prevent me from passing until we were only going about 20 mph on a 65 mph highway. I considered just pulling over to the side and stopping rather than continue to risk an accident, but I decided that was probably an even bigger risk precisely because he might stop as well and pull a gun on me. Fortunately, we came to an exit after a few minutes of this nonsense, and I was able to cut over and exit after he was already passed the ramp. He hit his breaks and obviously was considering backing up to follow me, but I guess he'd finally had enough and kept going. Anyway, the point is, I can definitely see how your friend's decision to pull over might have been a defensive move rather than an aggressive one. Even getting out of his car could be construed as defensive, since it would be hard to defend yourself from a seated and seat-belted position if the guy approaching you decides to attack, although in that case, it would probably be better to wait in your car until he gets out of his and then just speed away.


Stay in your car, call 911, draw your weapon, warn the other person to stay back.

At least, in Ohio, that's how I'd do it.

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My statement was directed at the shooter. I do feel it's somewhat harder to justify shooting someone in self defense if you pull your car over to confront them.

I've pulled over before to confront rude people. I was prepared for a tussle, but preferred words. Simply getting in a tussle is not cause for a shooting IMO. Kick the guy's ***, or get yours kicked. No need to bring weapons into it in that situation.
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
My statement was directed at the shooter. I do feel it's somewhat harder to justify shooting someone in self defense if you pull your car over to confront them.


Sure. That's why you don't pull over to confront them. You pull over in the hope they just keep driving.

But if they don't, you need to stay in your car to protect yourself.

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I've pulled over before to confront rude people.


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I've pulled over before to confront rude people.


Huh..

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
My statement was directed at the shooter. I do feel it's somewhat harder to justify shooting someone in self defense if you pull your car over to confront them.

I've pulled over before to confront rude people. I was prepared for a tussle, but preferred words. Simply getting in a tussle is not cause for a shooting IMO. Kick the guy's ***, or get yours kicked. No need to bring weapons into it in that situation.

Yeah...

If I pulled over at the scene of an accident, and anyone walked towards my car aggressively, I would absolutely prepare to defend myself with leathal force.

That's just dumb.

Don't do that.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I've pulled over before to confront rude people. I was prepared for a tussle, but preferred words. Simply getting in a tussle is not cause for a shooting IMO. Kick the guy's ***, or get yours kicked. No need to bring weapons into it in that situation.

Nothing good can come of this. They're either an idiot, an *******, or someone who just made an innocent mistake. Whichever the case, a confrontation isn't going to help. And then there's the very real possiblity that they drive like an ******* because they're a sociopath. This is a good way to die for nothing.

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Stathol wrote:
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I've pulled over before to confront rude people. I was prepared for a tussle, but preferred words. Simply getting in a tussle is not cause for a shooting IMO. Kick the guy's ***, or get yours kicked. No need to bring weapons into it in that situation.

Nothing good can come of this. They're either an idiot, an *******, or someone who just made an innocent mistake. Whichever the case, a confrontation isn't going to help. And then there's the very real possiblity that they drive like an ******* because they're a sociopath. This is a good way to die for nothing.

I think this is technically called "Zimmermaning" now.

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Stathol wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I've pulled over before to confront rude people. I was prepared for a tussle, but preferred words. Simply getting in a tussle is not cause for a shooting IMO. Kick the guy's ***, or get yours kicked. No need to bring weapons into it in that situation.

Nothing good can come of this. They're either an idiot, an *******, or someone who just made an innocent mistake. Whichever the case, a confrontation isn't going to help. And then there's the very real possiblity that they drive like an ******* because they're a sociopath. This is a good way to die for nothing.


This.

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Stathol wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I've pulled over before to confront rude people. I was prepared for a tussle, but preferred words. Simply getting in a tussle is not cause for a shooting IMO. Kick the guy's ***, or get yours kicked. No need to bring weapons into it in that situation.

Nothing good can come of this. They're either an idiot, an *******, or someone who just made an innocent mistake. Whichever the case, a confrontation isn't going to help. And then there's the very real possiblity that they drive like an ******* because they're a sociopath. This is a good way to die for nothing.


I don't disagree.

However, on rare occasions, I do feel the need to explain proper manners.

And no - this does not extend to idiots and people who make mistakes. I am quite patient with such people.

This is hardly a recommendation. I'm simply saying that merely getting in a tussle is not cause for weapons. Rynar's example above does not apply, as he would not feel the need to defend himself. You don't attack people that are not willing to fight. All Rynar would get is words. If he shoots me for words, he'll go to jail.
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And you'd already be shot. I bet knowing he was in jail would be real comfortable, rolling around on the pavement bleeding out and hoping an ambulance gets there in time.

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And you'd already be shot. I bet knowing he was in jail would be real comfortable, rolling around on the pavement bleeding out and hoping an ambulance gets there in time.


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Stathol wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I've pulled over before to confront rude people. I was prepared for a tussle, but preferred words. Simply getting in a tussle is not cause for a shooting IMO. Kick the guy's ***, or get yours kicked. No need to bring weapons into it in that situation.

Nothing good can come of this. They're either an idiot, an *******, or someone who just made an innocent mistake. Whichever the case, a confrontation isn't going to help. And then there's the very real possiblity that they drive like an ******* because they're a sociopath. This is a good way to die for nothing.


I don't disagree.

However, on rare occasions, I do feel the need to explain proper manners.

And no - this does not extend to idiots and people who make mistakes. I am quite patient with such people.

This is hardly a recommendation. I'm simply saying that merely getting in a tussle is not cause for weapons. Rynar's example above does not apply, as he would not feel the need to defend himself. You don't attack people that are not willing to fight. All Rynar would get is words. If he shoots me for words, he'll go to jail.

No, Rynar's example absolutely does apply.

If I've just been in an accident, and some aggressive ******* comes towards my car, appearing outraged, I'm taking out my hand gun, and telling him to get the **** away from me and my car.

If he doesn't and appears intent to want to "tussle" with me, I'll fire, center mass. No one has the right to assault anyone else, but everyone has the right to defend themselves from assault.

But hey, if you feel like your torso isn't ventilated enough, feel free to act like an idiot.

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And you'd already be shot. I bet knowing he was in jail would be real comfortable, rolling around on the pavement bleeding out and hoping an ambulance gets there in time.


:roll:


You go ahead and make all the little emoticons you want. Its your ***. You've got a family. You might want to think about that the next time you just can't let someone's "lack of proper manners" go.

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And you'd already be shot. I bet knowing he was in jail would be real comfortable, rolling around on the pavement bleeding out and hoping an ambulance gets there in time.


:roll:


You go ahead and make all the little emoticons you want. Its your ***. You've got a family. You might want to think about that the next time you just can't let someone's "lack of proper manners" go.


Hey, thanks for the life advice!!! :thumbs:

I like nothing better than a cop telling me I shouldn't handle my own problems. (Leave that to the authorities!!)
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You go ahead and make all the little emoticons you want. Its your ***. You've got a family. You might want to think about that the next time you just can't let someone's "lack of proper manners" go.


Hey, thanks for the life advice!!! :thumbs:

I like nothing better than a cop telling me I shouldn't handle my own problems. (Leave that to the authorities!!)[/quote]
You are retarded Arathain.

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