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So only Scotsman can claim no-true-Scotsman? By this logic I cannot claim that a rock is not a piece of wood, since I belong to neither the class of "things that are wood" nor "things that are rock"


No. If you want to prove that someone is not a Scotsman, you must provide some evidence that they are not, in fact, a Scotsman - not merely your assertion that "true" Scotsmen don't do such things. In the same fashion, if one wants to prove that someone is not a Muslim, one must demonstrate that they reject major, defining elements of Islamic theology.

I don't know why I have to explain this to you. In fact I probably don't. I'm pretty sure this misunderstanding is not due to your inability to understand why you cannot determine something to not be a member of a given class based on any arbitrary characteristic you select - or why, in cases more complex than "rock vs. wood" one must provide more in-depth discussion and evidence to demonstrate the point. Or are you actually telling me that you don't understand that "Is a Christian" vs. "Isn't one" is a more difficult and complex question than "rock" vs "wood"?

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You seem to be wanting people to engage with you exactly the way you want them to. I'm sorry we're failing you in that.

If you haven't noticed, this is not a formal debate. It is, in fact, a message board. And not a message board dedicated to formal debate.

I do plenty of that for my job. I come here to unwind. Sorry I'm not living up to your standards for what questions I ask and how I ask them.

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You seem to be wanting people to engage with you exactly the way you want them to. I'm sorry we're failing you in that.

If you haven't noticed, this is not a formal debate. It is, in fact, a message board. And not a message board dedicated to formal debate.

I do plenty of that for my job. I come here to unwind. Sorry I'm not living up to your standards for what questions I ask and how I ask them.

I take exception to ... *gestures to all of you*

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You seem to be wanting people to engage with you exactly the way you want them to. I'm sorry we're failing you in that.


Well, I've been trying for years. I'm the one that people complained about too much TLDR posting; now I'm not doing it and you're complaining about that. I'm done coming up with posts that take an hour or more to craft and find links for and then the only thing people want to say is "lol broken quote tags TLDR wall of text therefore you're wrong."

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If you haven't noticed, this is not a formal debate. It is, in fact, a message board. And not a message board dedicated to formal debate.


Since I said exactly this, yes, I noticed. Pretending someone didn't say something, then trying to appear to call their attention to it is really pretty lazy.

As for it not being a formal debate board, that does not mean that all principles of reasoning go right out the window if they inconvenience you.

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I do plenty of that for my job. I come here to unwind. Sorry I'm not living up to your standards for what questions I ask and how I ask them.


So you come here to unwind, and make minimal effort posts but other people have to engage thoughtfully. Interesting how that works. I'm sorry that you don't get that no one else here has to accommodate your wants in that regard.

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