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You...are making a joke, right?


Absolutely. IFF means Identification Friend or Foe and is the primary means for identifying aircraft as friendly or not. The radar "interrogates" a transponder and waits for a "squak" of the proper code.

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Yes, I knew which interpretation of iff you were referencing. I wanted to make sure you knew it also stood for 'if and only if'.

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7%... still think i'm right though... stupid religion question...


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Yes, I knew which interpretation of iff you were referencing. I wanted to make sure you knew it also stood for 'if and only if'.


No, but I was well aware he didn't mean IFF in the sense the joke meant.

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Lol you cannot have a quiz about contradictions when you include subjective qualifiers like "unnecessarily" because the viewer will always use their own standards.

Its all audacious hope for change. Your mind does the filling in.

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The abortion one espically bugged me. It was a terrible example. Opening my window and a spore coming in implies to me that the spore is uninvited vs consentual sexual activity where both people have a reasonable expectation that their action could result in pregnancy. Maybe theyre trying to draw a parallel to risk in action, but its different types of risk.

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Philosophy without rigor is as useful as a brand new BMW to a brown dwarf.

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27%

Although they marekd me down for the art is perception bit, and I disagree. I agreed that "Judgements about works of art are purely matters of taste, and that "Michaelangelo is one of history's finest artists". That is perfectly consistent. Michaelangelo's art matches my taste. They didn't ask whether it was "empirically true" that M is one of history's finest artists heheh.


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I am fairly sure it was for the same reason as Vindi...

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The abortion one espically bugged me. It was a terrible example. Opening my window and a spore coming in implies to me that the spore is uninvited vs consentual sexual activity where both people have a reasonable expectation that their action could result in pregnancy. Maybe theyre trying to draw a parallel to risk in action, but its different types of risk.



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While I see (and to some extent agree with you) what you mean, I think the act of opening the window was what they were using to show an invitation. The way it was framed, though does show an inherent bias by the writers of the question, no doubt.

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The abortion one espically bugged me. It was a terrible example. Opening my window and a spore coming in implies to me that the spore is uninvited vs consentual sexual activity where both people have a reasonable expectation that their action could result in pregnancy. Maybe theyre trying to draw a parallel to risk in action, but its different types of risk.


Exactly.


Actually I found it to be a good example. Opening the window parallels intercourse. The window screen parallels contraception.

Counter to some opinions here, the vast majority of the time people have sex for fun, not procreation. Speaking personally, I've gone to some fairly great lengths to prevent pregnancies when I'm intimate with my wife. Any fetus that were to develop would be completely uninvited and unwanted by us both. Our act of sexual intercourse in no way what so ever is concent to have a child.


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While I see (and to some extent agree with you) what you mean, I think the act of opening the window was what they were using to show an invitation. The way it was framed, though does show an inherent bias by the writers of the question, no doubt.


Yeah, you could just keep your window closed.

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Aizle wrote:
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The abortion one espically bugged me. It was a terrible example. Opening my window and a spore coming in implies to me that the spore is uninvited vs consentual sexual activity where both people have a reasonable expectation that their action could result in pregnancy. Maybe theyre trying to draw a parallel to risk in action, but its different types of risk.


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Actually I found it to be a good example. Opening the window parallels intercourse. The window screen parallels contraception.


Having a short skirt parallels consent then, right?

No, in the same way that the "window" and "intercourse" are not analogous. I agree that the window and intercourse appear to be analogous: they both have risks, the risks can be mitigated, the both require proactive action on the part of one or more parties. Here's where it fails though: intercourse (for the purpose of analogy) requires two-party consent and two-party action, opening the window does not.

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Counter to some opinions here, the vast majority of the time people have sex for fun, not procreation. Speaking personally, I've gone to some fairly great lengths to prevent pregnancies when I'm intimate with my wife. Any fetus that were to develop would be completely uninvited and unwanted by us both. Our act of sexual intercourse in no way what so ever is concent to have a child.


Counter to your opinion, sex exists for the purpose of procreation. The fact that people engage in it for other reasons is irrelevant in a philosophical discussion of abortion, unless one or both parties are literally unaware that pregnancy is a causal result of sex.

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Counter to your opinion, sex exists for the purpose of procreation. The fact that people engage in it for other reasons is irrelevant in a philosophical discussion of abortion, unless one or both parties are literally unaware that pregnancy is a causal result of sex.


Eggs exsist for hatching and not eating, water for drinking and not showering, mouth for eating and not swearing, etc etc etc...

Humans have created our own purposes for many things not intended for that purposes, thats how the human race evolves... maybe it's part of evolution? I mean the dolphins are catching on pretty quickly ;)


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Interesting example, given that dolphins are sex fiends (no, really).

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Counter to your opinion, sex exists for the purpose of procreation. The fact that people engage in it for other reasons is irrelevant in a philosophical discussion of abortion, unless one or both parties are literally unaware that pregnancy is a causal result of sex.


Eggs exsist for hatching and not eating, water for drinking and not showering, mouth for eating and not swearing, etc etc etc...

Humans have created our own purposes for many things not intended for that purposes, thats how the human race evolves... maybe it's part of evolution? I mean the dolphins are catching on pretty quickly ;)



Um.... false analogy on all accounts. In fact, trying to create an analogy of a physical act to a noun is bound to fail, given that physical objects can largely be used to whatever end to which we can use them.

Beyond the false analogy though: eggs are clearly a food source, as evidenced by any number of other animal's dietary habits. Water is clearly used for the purposes of bathing, given its excellent natural propensity to cleanse an item and the empirical evidence indicating its use as such throughout the animal kingdom. Finally, the mouth is critical to human communication, of which "swearing" is a part.

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I agree my analogies were somewhat bad, but just what ever I could think of cause there was cake downstairs. In this case it’s blueberry cheese and not a lie.

Humans by nature seeks thrills and pleasure, while I agree that there is always some sort of consent. But to say the deviation from an intended purpose of an act has no philosophical ramifications on the out come of said deviation… that I can not completely agree with. I guess the question is more, if there is an advantage to the deviation from the intended purposes and is widely accepted, tried and tested, does the deviation then become part of the intended purposes.

Once we could agree on that, then the philosophical discussion of the outcome could continue.


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Water exists because that is how individual atoms of hydrogen and oxygen interact.

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