The Glade 4.0

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/08/au ... nt-center/

Today, and earlier last week one muslim tried to blow up a Christmas Tree lighting ceremony in Portland Ore. That one amuses me even more from the reaction of the locals "but we are tolerant multi - culturalists and liberal, it must be entrapment!

I am sure the Homeland security will be issuing another warning about right wing extremism, and the liberals will worry about islamaphobia in the wake of another muslim trying to mass murder Americans.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

Every time I get on the highway during rush hour, I question why people think genocide and mass murder is wrong and immoral.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

OMG you're hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how the FBI finds all these people initially?

From what I have read it seems they monitor, or post on Jihadist websites looking for American Muslims who post their or seek to contact actual Jihadists.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

You still live in STL?

Genocide is happening, just slowly.

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In time, this too shall pass.

Yes. I'm given to understand there are parts of the country, notably New England and the Los Angeles area where traffic is worse by several orders of magnitude. I think it's amazing there aren't more riots in either area.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

And destroy the one truly believable reason for why you are late to work?

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

See, where I come from that isn't a viable excuse for jack ****. What it is, is a reason to wake up earlier, so you can be on time, and if you can't, then you'll be replaced by someone with real desire.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

I'd gladly tolerate being on time for work every day if it meant no more imbeciles **** up traffic. Don't forget, it means I'd get home on time, too.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

I assume you mean "on a regular basis." Freak unpredictable traffic issues that cause several hours delay is pretty damned impossible to plan for.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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*grumble* I hate punctuality-Nazis. Seriously, is the world really going to end if I'm 7.5 minutes late arriving at my desk, particularly since I'm usually still diligently sitting there hours after the "normal" workday ends? And how can people be so incredibly full of themselves that they're honestly outraged when an extra 3 minutes of their precious time has been wasted because I paused to take a whizz on my way to meet them for dinner? Gah!!! I swear, if consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, punctuality is the hobgoblin of small people.

My opinion is that Im paid to begin work at a certain time. Not before, and certainly not after. Begin work, not be in process of arriving, not getting my coffee, not getting the office gossip.

The trade off for my employer is that i hold them to the same standard i hold myself. Pay me on time, for all hours worked, as well as living up to their other agreements such as honoring workplace conditions, breaks, lunches etc.

I work on a schedule. I despise the chronically late folks because while once in a while it happens, these folks use that grace period like its their time. They consistantly put things off till the last minute, while those who keep on schedule get more work shifted to them cause the otherws are behind.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

That's one of the reasons I *hated* working in a call center.

3 minutes isn't late goddamnit. 15, sure. not 3.

Especially since I'm paid hourly, and your fascist time machine records to the second when I clock in and out. If I'm a couple minutes after 6, and I work a few minutes after 3, does it balance out? Yes. But do your policies allow that? No.

**** time nazis.

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Holy shitsnacks!

I could not agree more.

Depending on the specific role, this can make sense. If you have time sensative work or a shift change that happens at a set time (assembly work for instance) then I can see getting all worried about what time someone started. But in more white collar positions like office work, starting at 8am vs. 8:15 doesn't matter in the slightest.

So if the guy who pays you decides to hold back 30 bucks from your paycheck for whatever reason are you ok with that?

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Why would he hold back the money? If I work 8 hours, I get paid for 8 hours.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Why not? You seem to think it's no big deal to not be at work on time. Why should it be a big deal to him that you get paid your full amount?

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Apples and truck tires.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Eh, I see it that you agreed to something so you honor it. The being late every now and then because of traffic, accident, something unforseen can be overlooked from time to time.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Yeh. I'm not sayin that its not disruptive to be 20 mins late every day.

The time nazis in the call center assigned infraction points for being late.
1-4 mins got .25, 5-10 got .5, and more than 10 was 1.

More than 5 infractions in a rolling 6 month period resulted in termination. You also got nailed for clocking in from breaks/lunch too if you weren't careful. Theoretically, you could get a full infraction in a day for being 1 min late in, back from breaks(2) and lunch.

**** nazis.

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Holy shitsnacks!

But that's not really the case. Your employer isn't paying you because he really likes having someone sitting at a particular desk at a particular time; he's paying you because he wants a task completed, which may or may not require exacting punctuality. If it does (e.g., the shift-switch on an assembly line), then I certainly have no objection to requiring punctuality. If it doesn't (which is the case for most jobs), then I see it as having a strict rule for no particular reason.

I agree that people who lack punctuality often have substantive performance problems as well, but the two are not intrinsically linked. If someone is chronically late on arrival, but their actual work is always done on time and to a high level of quality, who cares about their personal tardiness? On the other hand, if they're always late, and their work product is also shoddy/tardy, then ding them for the lousy work product. Either way, it's the quality and timing of the work that matters, not the personal arrival time.

First of all, if you cannot be flexible enough as an employer to allow your employees to be late periodically as a result of serious traffic issues, then you aren't a very good manager. You'll have employees that hate their jobs.

Second, I don't care what time I showed up today, if my work's done and clients happy, go **** yourself. If I get harrassed for showing up late, you bet your *** I'm not staying here a minute after 5.

Be inflexible with me and I'll be inflexible with you. Don't bother me with trivial crap and the work will get done, correctly, and on time.

I disagree. If your job isnt important enough to be there on time, then the job should be eliminated, or its should be performed by a person who appreciates it. Speaking against those who are chronically late of course.

I joined my gym because it opened at 430 am and i could go before work. A few days the opener was getting there at 430. My complaint was that they were to be open and ready for business at 430 not turning on the lights. I ended up dropping the membership because my use of the gym was cut down and down due to an apathetic staff.

Work ethic is important.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

YMMV, I guess, but this really doesn't make sense to me. If my work for the day is going to take 8 hours to complete, but it's not time-sensitive, how does doing it from 9:15-5:15 instead of 9:00-5:00 indicate that (i) the job isn't important; (ii) I don't appreciate the job; or (iii) I have a lousy work ethic? I genuinely can't see how those conclusions are related to my start time.