The Glade 4.0

Um, no. The design of these programs was not to be survival tools, but a helping hand when a rough patch was hit, or in the case of social security- benefits to a widow. It's not a retirement plan. Welfare was supposed to be temp assistance, not a lifestyle for generations.



I agree, I want consistancy in laws. If a guy kills a 6month pregnant chick, he shouldn't get slapped with double homicide- yet it's happened. But if we are saying that at 6month and 1 day it's a human being, then why don't we currently charge unhealthy moms, or pregnant women who engage in risky behaviors such as smoking drinking etc with at least child endangerment?

Looks pretty good to me. Maybe killing babies isn't such a good thing?

You're right, killing things isn't a good thing. I don't believe that anyone that I've ever talked to who supports the right of abortion thinks of them as a "good thing". However, they DO believe that a woman having control over her body is a good thing, and that sometimes, those women get into situations where they have to make very tough, heart breaking decisions. But the key point is that THEY have the right to make that choice.

That's why the graph is depressing.

And that is where we differ. It has the potential to be another human being, but it isn't one yet.

And eviction isn't killing. It may lead to death, but it isn't killing.

Definately scrambled.

Nope, it's a person. Keep telling yourself that so you can convince yourself that killing a baby is ok though. Not surprised in the least.

And keep using emotionally charged language to convince yourself that your ideals are the right ones.

Nothing emotionally charged about anything. Just pointing out faulty logic of people who think killing babies is ok. That's what is comes down to. I think my ideals are right, I assume you do as well.

You said a fetus is a distinct organism from the mother. Therefore, it should be able to be removed from the mother and survive.

Incidentally,


This is begging the question. The part that follows "therefore" does not logically conclude
from what preceded it. You are assuming your own argument in the conclusion.

And in any case, what you conclude doesn't align with standard conventions for biologically classification anyway. Even if we grant that a fetus is a parasite, parasites are still considered distinct from, if nevertheless dependent upon, the host organism.

And eviction isn't killing. It may lead to death, but it isn't killing.

Damn you mammalian evolutionary path!

No, that's where titties come from.

Uh huh.

Noone's arguing that killing babies is ok.

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/04/10/2668615/carmichael-man-gets-50-to-life.html#ixzz0mYP24Fmv

50 years to life, for killing a parasite? Hmmmm.

50 years to life, for killing a parasite? Hmmmm.

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/04/10/2668615/carmichael-man-gets-50-to-life.html#ixzz0mYP24Fmv

50 years to life, for killing a parasite? Hmmmm.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

I agree with you. When we kill patasites, like those leetching off the tax dollars of others, there should be no criminal penalties.

Every sentence handed out under our legal system has had an infallible jury, unaffected by emotional testimony and illogical reasoning.

But that's beside the point. No one here is advocating abortions past the stage of viable life. That was a 6-month old fetus.

Every sentence handed out under our legal system has had an infallible jury, unaffected by emotional testimony and illogical reasoning.

But that's beside the point. No one here is advocating abortions past the stage of viable life. That was a 6-month old fetus.

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.