The Glade 4.0

The way I see it, those people signed a contract with the government, and now Congress has changed the terms of that contract unilaterally. IMO, those who do not want to serve under the new terms should be allowed to leave with no blemish to their record. It's just my opinion, take it for whatever that's worth.

I would like to see where an enlistment contract has any language guaranteeing that soldiers will not have to work with admitted homo/bisexuals. The status of any other soldier is not a term of enlistment, nor is practically any other change to general policy. These soldiers/sailors/airmen/marines are not being materially harmed in any demonstrable way by the government changing this policy

I would also point out that this argument does not apply to comissioned officers or warrant officers, since neither has a contract; they are appointed, as the names suggest, by commission or warrant, so at best you are arguing that enlisted personnel should be allowed to leave.

I just don't understand the need to implement this while we're engaged in 2 wars. With Afghanistan going to crap, it seems to me the military needs all the stability it can get right now.

I just don't understand the need to implement this while we're engaged in 2 wars. With Afghanistan going to crap, it seems to me the military needs all the stability it can get right now.

It makes it more stable, it's an upgrade to the system.

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Taly, is your new avatar Capt. Janeway?

Any transitional process is by nature disruptive.

I just don't understand the need to implement this while we're engaged in 2 wars. With Afghanistan going to crap, it seems to me the military needs all the stability it can get right now.

Isn't this rather like saying "Sure, we plan on freeing the slaves, but we'll do it after the harvest this year..."?

It's an extreme metaphor, but the point remains...there are those (and they are legion) who would use such logic to consistently and permanently deny passage of the bill. And it's never too early for some wrong like DADT to be righted.

One could make an excellent argument that the military will be more stable when they stop kicking men and women out whenever they find out who they sleep with.

With Afghanistan going to crap, it seems to me the military needs all the stability it can get right now.

I'd prefer they pass legislation getting us out of wars rather than this less important gay thing, but whatever....

Isn't this rather like saying "Sure, we plan on freeing the slaves, but we'll do it after the harvest this year..."?

It's an extreme metaphor, but the point remains...there are those (and they are legion) who would use such logic to consistently and permanently deny passage of the bill. And it's never too early for some wrong like DADT to be righted.

I don't buy that. I don't see wars getting started just to keep homosexuals quiet about their sexuality.

"Fidelity is the essence of the United States Marine Corps. Above all else, we are loyal to the Constitution, our Commander in Chief, Congress, our Chain of Command, and the American people. The House of Representatives and the Senate have voted to repeal Title 10, US Code 654 "Policy Concerning Homosexuality in the United States Armed Forces." As stated during my testimony before Congress in September and again during hearings before the Senate Armed Services Committee earlier this month, the Marine Corps will step out smartly to faithfully implement this new policy. I, and the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps, will personally lead this effort, thus ensuring the respect and dignity due all Marines. On this matter, we look forward to further demonstrating to the American people the discipline and loyalty that have been the hallmark of the United States Marine Corps for over 235 years."