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Posted Oct 20 2009, 11:46 AM by Kim Peterson Rating: Filed under: Kim Peterson
Could banks have any less respect for their customers?

Citibank (C) has begun closing customers' accounts without telling them. That's a bitter surprise for some people who pull out their cards to make a purchase, only to learn that the card has been denied.

This isn't anything new, but it's a trend that's starting to involve more banks and affect more customers who least expect it. Pay your bill on time and keep a low balance? Doesn't matter. All types of accounts are getting hit.

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One woman tried to pay for gas, according to the Associated Press. Citibank said it was because of something that appeared on her credit report. But when the woman accessed her credit report, it only said, "Closed at credit grantor's request."


The woman said she used the card regularly and always paid the bill promptly, according to the AP. Other people have reported similar incidents. Read this person's story for more.

And it isn't just Citibank that's yanking cards. The Wall Street Journal has the story of how American Express (AXP) suddenly canceled the card of one woman earlier this year. The woman -- a lawyer, in fact -- was told that her card was canceled because of information in her credit report.

That seems to be a standard line for credit card companies. And though it seems like bad business, experts tell the Journal that it is legal for companies to cancel cards without warning.

Customers have reportedly been affected by this at Bank of America (BAC), JPMorgan Chase (JPM) and HSBC Holdings, according to the Journal.


In Citibank's case, the company said it decided to close some MasterCard accounts that were co-branded with oil companies, including Shell, Citgo, ExxonMobil and Phillips 66-Conoco.

It's fine to close customer accounts. That's business, and banks do it all the time. And in this economy, credit-card companies are getting killed as people who have lost jobs abandon payments. Banks are responding with panic, raising interest rates and fees and canceling cards to try and minimize risk.

What gets me, however, is the way Citibank did it.


AP reports that Citi closed the accounts on Wednesday, but sent out letters Monday informing customers of the change. So Citibank waits until the last minute to tell customers, most of whom probably didn't receive the news before their cards were shut down.

Way to leave your customers in the lurch.



Doesn't look like they are canceling cards from people who owe money...its the people who are paying on time and not accruing interest? Awesome.

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Most creditors hire idiots for accountants and credit strategists who failed Logic 101. They perpetuate people's debt by having obscenely high interest rates and then try to justify that the accounts on the books having extraordinary value. Of course, it's the idiots who buy their liabilities they own without actually investigating how they derive the assesed values that act as enablers who should be equally blamed.

It's like we read about all sorts of historical anecdotes about how people could be such raging idiots and wonder how it was possible without looking around ourselves and realizing they are being just as idiotic.

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This doesn't surprise me in the least.

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I recently noticed that my Wells Fargo card went from something around 11% APR to something insane like 18-19% APR. I was glad that I didn't have anything on it.


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Aizle wrote:
I recently noticed that my Wells Fargo card went from something around 11% APR to something insane like 18-19% APR. I was glad that I didn't have anything on it.


Chase tried that bullshit with me. I declined to accept the increase in interest rate. They very politely told me that due to my declination, they would close the account. I paid them in full the following month. Stupid **** could have continued to get 9.99% from me for years as I paid down a debt accrued while I was laid off.

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Kairtane wrote:
Aizle wrote:
I recently noticed that my Wells Fargo card went from something around 11% APR to something insane like 18-19% APR. I was glad that I didn't have anything on it.


Chase tried that bullshit with me. I declined to accept the increase in interest rate. They very politely told me that due to my declination, they would close the account. I paid them in full the following month. Stupid **** could have continued to get 9.99% from me for years as I paid down a debt accrued while I was laid off.


This is the idiocy of people who run their business that have their noses too far in their books (and heads up their asses, meaning their books are up their asses) and their feet grounded in their horrible assumptions to step back and realize what they are rationalizing.

Hey, we can charge 50% APR and make a ton of money! The math says we make a lot! Really? Man, I should quit and get into the financial industry.

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Phase 1: Cancel accounts.
Phase 3: Profit!

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Phase 1: Cancel accounts.
Phase 3: Profit!

Well, really, as long as they're cancelling accounts they're not generating interest on, it does save them some trivial amounts of money because they don't have to be as liquid.

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Except credit cards make the bulk of their money on customers they don't earn interest on. It's the people who pay off their cards that convince merchants to accept the card and the first place.

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