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And you're wrong. Straight isn't the baseline, with everything else being a deviation from it.

Regardless, nobody is exclusive in their sexuality, whether they think so or not. Even you are a little bit gay.

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Not really. The only difference is their use of the word "straight". I recognize that there are degrees of "gay", but it makes no sense that there are degrees of "straight". So, to "correct" (this is obviously opinion) the rating table below, it would be

0 Straight
1 Mildly gay
2 Pretty gay
3 Desperate for love (i kid, i kid)
and so on, up to:
6 Completely gay.

Unless my English is suddenly very bad - I can't find anything of Ara inferring that straight is a baseline - only that it indicates no homosexual attractions, just as homosexual indicates no heterosexual attractions.

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No, I'm correct. You can't be "mostly straight". It doesn't even make sense from a mathematics perspective. Besides, this is clearly opinion, so I'm immune from wrong anyway.

And, as Elmo pointed out, a baseline would imply "normal" which requires a statistical and possibly biological interpretation. I'm not suggesting a baseline, as I do not have the data to support it.



No.

If you can't be mostly straight, how can you be mildly gay? There seems to be a disconnect in your premises.

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Yes you can. These aren't absolutes. Straight is synonymous with heterosexual, and is entirely interchangeable with it. You can be "mostly heterosexual."



Suuuuure. Protesting a bit too much, huh?

Fag.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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It's an opinion, as you say. But I will point out that your opinion is based entirely on a specific choice of (informal) English terminology. Terminology which -- although I don't personally object to its usage -- is, let's be honest, is rather biased towards a particular interpretation of sexuality. If (general) we use neutral, purely descriptive, clinical terms like "homosexuality" and "heterosexuality", then the entirety of your opinion becomes irrelevant to the discussion.

It's also an argument from syntax, more than even semantics. In this context, the phrase "more straight" and "less bent" are semantically the same. As well, you haven't offered any particular reason to accept that there are degrees of "gay" (why should there be?) or for why there aren't degrees of straightness. Informally, terms like "straighter" or "mostly straight" are meaningful qualifiers, at least contextually. Formally, the branch of fractal mathematics certainly takes no issue with the concept of fractional straightness.

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One's sexual orientation is a continum, not a switch.

Turn off or get disgusted at porn any time you see a guy in it, Ara?

Kinsey's theory actually goes a bit farther than that. In particular, your position on that continuum changes over time. Moreover, like a good little Freudian, Kinsey believed that the initial state of human sexuality was in the middle of that scale. So even supposing that person were presently at the utmost extreme of the heterosexual end of the spectrum, it would still be the case that at some point in their life, they were at least a "little bit gay". And, of course, the reverse is also true.

(Again, if we accept Kinsey's theory in its entirety).

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He's going to respond that he doesn't watch porn.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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So your argument is that 100% of the people on earth are bisexual to one degree or another? What a load of horse manure.

Well, 99.9% at least. We can't speak in absolutes here.

I don't know about that, maybe that's why I don't fit in here. I have no problem calling that an absolute load of horse manure.

Why is it?

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I'm not the first to say so, and Stathol already touched on this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innate_bisexuality

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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One "straight" (heterosexual), varying degrees of "bent" (bisexual).

Is that so hard to understand?

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It's not hard to understand. It's just incorrect.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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According to that graph it's not.

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No, you are making this up as you go. Bisexuality is just a mix of both attractions. The graph shows that a bisexual person is both heterosexual (attracted to the opposite sex) AND homosexual (attracted to the same sex). They are both "straight" AND "gay." They aren't exclusive of each other. Neither of these aren't exclusive terms. This is why the graph shows the fictional "exclusively homosexual" and "exclusively heterosexual" collumns. If heterosexual was an exclusive term, he wouldn't need to use the word "exclusive" because it would already be implied.

(Although Arathain, in his vocal homophobic way, is trying to describe only heterosexuality as exclusive, while homosexuality is everything else.)

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I know you like to pretend to have an advanced degree in sexuality, but your inability to compare what Arathain wrote to the graph at the link is proof that you suffer from cognitive bias.

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I see.

Stathol: {Well reasoned argument}
Talya: {Well reasoned argument}
Taskiss: "Nyah nyah you're wrong. I don't need to explain why that graph means the opposite of what it clearly says to everyone but me."

Deal with the points, or get the **** out, you senile old man.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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This really adds a whole other dimension to "Dora the Explorer".

Quick, someone add this to the Conservapedia article.

Taskiss:

I think you need to go actually read what Kinsey wrote, because you really have no clue what you're talking about. Kinsey would in no way, shape, or form, agree with Arathain's premise. Your inability to grasp the concept of an axis label doesn't change that.

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

The graph does my talking for me. Deal with it.

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I wish I had a collection of 200-300 handy graphs so I would never have to say a word again.