The Glade 4.0

1. No one here has ever posted anything about "death panels".

2. The only thing ever said about "Kenyan birth certificates" was that some Kenyan officials claimed one existed (which is a fact). No one has ever made any mention or argument as to the veracity, reality, or applicability of those documents.

3. It doesn't matter who the President is. Wanting a Court definition that separates"natural born" and "statutory" citizenship and an answer to certain issues of retrospective law is neither crazy nor conspiratorial. It's simply seeking clarification on sticky matters of law.

So, no, no one here does the things you keep attributing to them. People disagree with you. People dislike many of your political and social opinions. People strongly dislike your posting behavior. But no one here has ever made the kinds of post you keep suggesting.

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Clarification before someone misreads this. The fact is that Kenyan officials made such a claim, not that such a certificate exists.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

In what is undoubtedly a vain attempt to actually get this thread back on topic, I just watched Obama's speech for the school kids.

I found it to be quite excellent. Well written and a good message to send.

I concur.

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

I still disagree with some of specifics of the speech, but come back to the comment I gave LK earlier... its unlikely the items from the speech with which I object will be noticed, much less realized, from the majority of the audience for which it was delivered (but not necessarily intended). Even more so given his speech patterns and peoples tendency to have less comprehension with spoken rather than written statements.

Mostly at this point though, I'm amused by the reversal of position by specific groups based upon the party of the presenter when the message is similiar.

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I disagree. It was unnecessarily political and overtly encumbered by current policy battles.

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Once you become enlightened, you will realize that this is just the hateful, racist and intolerant bigot within you saying this.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Don't forget "southern." As an adjective, it helps amplify and reinforce the hatred, racism, and bigotry.

Dirty southerners.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Hey now!

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

Quiet woman and get me my lynching rope.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Now you've got it!

Extra points for throwing in misogyny. (sp?)

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Uh Oh you white folk are all riled up. I'll be out in the field where I think I belong.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

You're not a house... ahem... variant, Hannibal?

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The Dude abides.

Awww Hannibal is being an adorablebear and autotilling my garden bigger?

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Of course not. I'm a manual agricultural product extraction specialist. Just stay right there Screeling. /hits the al sharpton speeddial....

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Do I get to sharecrop this time massa?

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Ok but not too many watermelons this time.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

You haven't planted any that I've seen. Really, consider a fence for next year. I want tomatos at least.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Tomatos are growing just fine near the compost pile.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

I saw it too, and it was good stuff. His speech tonight to congress was excellent as well.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/ ... 9229.shtml

CBS Transcript of Last Night's Speech

The economy is not in recovery; it has not "pulled ... back from the brink;" rather, the President is relying on all sorts of immaterial indicators and false green shoots to legitimate poor fiscal policy and unsound spending. The "growth" numbers we're seeing have more to do with inventory creation and production ramp ups that happen every fall in preparation for the Consumer Spending in the 4th Quarter. More importantly, the weak dollar and rising inflation actually obscures some of the real value lost in terms of investments and other sustainable wealth generation. So, why should his speech be considered great when the man opens with an outright lie? If he has to misrepresent his policies, their impact, and the reality of the economic situation as a lead up to healthcare, why should I listen?

The rest of his speech was just misdirecting bullshit. After all, this reform won't cost Americans a dime. At least, Obama thinks he can give us a free lunch on the matter.

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Why am I not surprised? The speech last night was excellent. He took the liars to task, which was nice to see. I would have much preferred to see a stronger endorsement of a public insurance option, but I still think we will see one in the final bill. Time will tell.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Montegue:

Considering I counted no less than 15 gross misstatements and outright lies in his speech, things that tow a party-line instead of adhere to reality, I guess you're not surprised because it looks like the "diarists" at DailyKOS and the "bloggers" at the Huffington Post wrote it. Of course, I pretty much dismissed anything after he started claiming financial policy success for his disastrous fiscal habits. The man opened with a lied and never stopped to tell the truth last night.

It was a good speech in terms of rhetoric; it was a horrendous speech is terms of reality.

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Well, what constitutes a lie in your book doesn't always pan out in reality. I think you were looking through your hate-colored glasses again, Khross. It was a fantastic speech in terms of reality, but your reality doesn't always mesh with actual reality. You still refuse to believe that humans are responsible for our warming trend, so your credibility on reality and fact is pretty thin.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show