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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/1 ... rzenegger/

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California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is ticked off.

He’s tired of signing bills that don’t address the pet causes he deems important. So when another unworthy bill crossed his desk recently for signing — addressing funding issues for the Port of San Francisco — the guv vetoed it and sent lawmakers a little note saying why. Only the note said a little more than lawmakers were expecting.

Buried in the text was a hidden message directed at State Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, author of the bill, according to the San Francisco Bay Guardian.


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What a strange coincidence.

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Lol, good one Arnie.

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Hardly petty, in my opinion. California's legislature needs that kind of thing to happen more often.

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hah **** You indeed, very good Ahnold.

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Screeling wrote:
Hardly petty, in my opinion. California's legislature needs that kind of thing to happen more often.


When you want people to behave like adults, acting like a child is usually counter productive.


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I have to say that Arnold's action is about sixteen steps higher on the maturity scale than Ammiano's.

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Heh...

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Aizle wrote:
Screeling wrote:
Hardly petty, in my opinion. California's legislature needs that kind of thing to happen more often.


When you want people to behave like adults, acting like a child is usually counter productive.

Apparently playing nice
isn't getting the desired results. Since it's had
zero impact, why bother
lying to yourself saying that things will
eventually change?

Sometimes hostility can
undermine your goals. But if the
citizens are on your side, it might make it easier to
kick the opposition out of office next election once the people
see the sides clearly.

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Edrle Neoey?


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Screeling wrote:
Apparently playing nice
isn't getting the desired results. Since it's had
zero impact, why bother
lying to yourself saying that things will
eventually change?

Sometimes hostility can
undermine your goals. But if the
citizens are on your side, it might make it easier to
kick the opposition out of office next election once the people
see the sides clearly.


Nice guys finish last, the saying goes,
or else tactics like this wouldn't work.

For instance, nice guys generally
lose the elections to start with,
and amiable sorts just don't
make it very far. It's really sad, but
I really think that one
needs to be a jerk in order to
get ahead in politics.

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Why is this funny? Westerners don't know haiku is superior.

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Eyeroll at Screeling
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I would like to point out, Arnold's attempt was much more subtle, as it did not have odd right margins.

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He just went up a notch in my book hehe...


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Like, I think this is
Offensive, and will write a
Letter expressing my outrage.


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It was clever. However, I'm betting one of his staffers came up with the idea and set it up. The question is whether he told the Governor about it first, and if the governor noticed it before he signed it.

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Why hasn't there been the media outrage at what this clown was yelling at the Governor in previous meetings.

Kiss my gay *** doesn't count as disrespectful anymore?

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No. He's gay, so he can make gay jokes.

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Hannibal wrote:
Why hasn't there been the media outrage at what this clown was yelling at the Governor in previous meetings.

Kiss my gay *** doesn't count as disrespectful anymore?


I guess I haven't seen any "media outrage".

The only thing making this newsworthy was it's creativeness.


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Aizle wrote:
I guess I haven't seen any "media outrage".

I believe Hannibal is questioning why this particular politician, a democrat in this case, was not lambasted in the press for the same outrageous behavior as the republican from SC, which received national attention. I think the obvious answer is that one is at the federal level and one at the state (perhaps made the news in CA, no clue).


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Ladas wrote:
Aizle wrote:
I guess I haven't seen any "media outrage".

I believe Hannibal is questioning why this particular politician, a democrat in this case, was not lambasted in the press for the same outrageous behavior as the republican from SC, which received national attention. I think the obvious answer is that one is at the federal level and one at the state (perhaps made the news in CA, no clue).


I understood the statement. My point was that the democrat was not (sadly) acting much differently than many other politicians and so therefore his actions weren't particularly news worthy. Nor probably would have Arnold's actions been noteworthy had he performed a similar retort in a more normal manner.

I believe there are 2 things that caused news organizations to pick it up. The use of the word "****" and the unique method of delivery. Neither of which were "outrage" but "huh, that's not something you see every day. I bet if we run a news article on that people will buy our product".


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Ladas wrote:
Aizle wrote:
I guess I haven't seen any "media outrage".

I believe Hannibal is questioning why this particular politician, a democrat in this case, was not lambasted in the press for the same outrageous behavior as the republican from SC, which received national attention. I think the obvious answer is that one is at the federal level and one at the state (perhaps made the news in CA, no clue).


In my own mind I'm questioning why any of it is noteworthy, since it seems to be the norm for how politics are handled. I guess the Obama "liar" incident stands out to me as another example of the two faced nature of things. The suckling at Barrys teat also bothers me, but considering how thuggish the administraton is, I guess it's better then being on their enemy list.

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Isn't the difference that the Carolina guy did it in Congress, during a speech? That's the breech of decorum that bugged people. Telling Arnold to kiss a gay *** outside of chambers, etc., doesn't carry as much weight.

Gay Assemblyman from SF wrote:
“This wasn’t the Legislative Chambers, where you have to put up with this ****,” Ammiano said.. “It’s like this guy just showed up and took a big dump in my living room.”


He came to a Democratic Party "gala" of some sort, in a hotel. Plenty of leeway there to tell him to **** off.

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It's kind of an interesting story.

Former S.F. Mayor Willie Brown found out that Arnie was staying at the hotel where the gala was being held; apparently, they're friends, and Willie asked Arnie to come down and say a few words as a favor. Arnie took the time to do so, and was treated like that by Ammiano. It's not like Arnie just showed up and barged on stage...and Willie Brown is understandably upset.

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