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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:12 am 
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Thirteen adults and five juveniles have been arrested as part of an investigation into the alleged rape of a Texas girl, police said.

Darrell Broussard, assistant police chief for the Cleveland, Texas, police department, said Monday that the investigation into the incident "is continuous," with more significant developments possible. Cleveland is about 50 miles northeast of Houston.

"There have been leads during our investigation that have alerted us to other possible persons of interest," Broussard told CNN. "The investigation is ongoing."

The 18 individuals charged thus far are between 14 and 27 years old, he said.
On Friday, the Cleveland police department announced that four students in the Cleveland independent school district had been arrested on charges of aggravated sexual assault of a child under 14.


Let's guess what races are involved.


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I bet they aren't female.


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CNN only mentions race/gender and party affiliation in regards to crime if it meets the White/male/or Republican marker. Anything else is meerly "the accused"

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The girl is 11 years old.

The mug shots they've shown so far have all been of African-Americans.

Whichever of them is guilty of this crime should be thrown in for the maximum sentence allowed by law, into the section with the highest percentage of fathers of daughters among the inmates.

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Uncle Fester wrote:
CNN only mentions race/gender and party affiliation in regards to crime if it meets the White/male/or Republican marker. Anything else is meerly "the accused"


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An 11 year old girl!? Determine who's guilty, then slit their throats and be done with it.


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Ulfynn wrote:
An 11 year old girl!? Determine who's guilty, then slit their throats and be done with it.

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Oh my God. I'm amazed she survived. They've ruined her life, I'm sure.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Oh my God. I'm amazed she survived. They've ruined her life, I'm sure.


I don't think most rape survivors consider their lives "ruined". In fact many go on to live happy lives.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Oh my God. I'm amazed she survived. They've ruined her life, I'm sure.


I don't think most rape survivors consider their lives "ruined". In fact many go on to live happy lives.


Yeah? That hold true for children gang raped by 18 people?


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
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Oh my God. I'm amazed she survived. They've ruined her life, I'm sure.


I don't think most rape survivors consider their lives "ruined". In fact many go on to live happy lives.


Yeah? That hold true for children gang raped by 18 people?


Yup.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Yeah? That hold true for children gang raped by 18 people?


Yup.


Show your work.


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Yup.


I'm convinced.

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You claimed it first that her life is ruined. That is a positive assertion not backed by evidence. Please show that having PTSD means your life is "ruined". Please show her chances of getting this condition.

Also, even for children who get it,

http://www.researchconsultation.com/Inf ... ems_05.asp
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Children have higher recovery rates and less psychological disturbances than adults.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
You claimed it first that her life is ruined. That is a positive assertion not backed by evidence. Please show that having PTSD means your life is "ruined". Please show her chances of getting this condition.


You need to work on your reading comprehension. "I'm sure" is a standard phrased used when discussing opinion.

The only positive assertion is yours, that identifies "many" children gang raped by 18 people go on to live happy lives.

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Also, even for children who get it,

http://www.researchconsultation.com/Inf ... ems_05.asp
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Children have higher recovery rates and less psychological disturbances than adults.


This does not discuss gang rape, it focuses on PTSD, which is not the only problem associated with the gang rape of a child. There can be damage, including that to the reproductive system preventing pregnancy or child birth, there can be neurological development issues, including seizures and other neurological developmental problems, and there can be damage to internal organs if treatment was severe. Admittedly, I'm going out on a limb by assuming that treatment was severe, but I don't think I'm going too far out there.


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Why are you wasting time and bandwith with him on this?

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Hannibal wrote:
Why are you wasting time and bandwith with him on this?


Just because it's cliche to say a traumatic incident ruins someone's life doesn't make it true.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
You claimed it first that her life is ruined. That is a positive assertion not backed by evidence. Please show that having PTSD means your life is "ruined". Please show her chances of getting this condition.


You need to work on your reading comprehension. "I'm sure" is a standard phrased used when discussing opinion.

The only positive assertion is yours, that identifies "many" children gang raped by 18 people go on to live happy lives.

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Also, even for children who get it,

http://www.researchconsultation.com/Inf ... ems_05.asp
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Children have higher recovery rates and less psychological disturbances than adults.


This does not discuss gang rape, it focuses on PTSD, which is not the only problem associated with the gang rape of a child. There can be damage, including that to the reproductive system preventing pregnancy or child birth, there can be neurological development issues, including seizures and other neurological developmental problems, and there can be damage to internal organs if treatment was severe. Admittedly, I'm going out on a limb by assuming that treatment was severe, but I don't think I'm going too far out there.


Gang rape isn't a psychological condition. The effects can be physical damage and psychological, which is PTSD that I linked to. The physical damage alone will not life-ruining. Many adults can not have children and I don't think their lives are ruined. I find it highly unlikely that her internal organs were damaged or that she will get seizures. I don't think you can be "sure" about this. Basically nothing gives evidence that her life was ruined.


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Gang rape isn't a psychological condition. The effects can be physical damage and psychological, which is PTSD that I linked to. The physical damage alone will not life-ruining. Many adults can not have children and I don't think their lives are ruined. I find it highly unlikely that her internal organs were damaged or that she will get seizures. I don't think you can be "sure" about this. Basically nothing gives evidence that her life was ruined.


Holy crap. You're killing me.


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He's convinced me....these guys should be charged with a misdemeanor, they did no lasting harm....

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Just make them say they are sorry or something... it's all good....


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Just make them say they are sorry or something... it's all good....


Boy's will be boy's after all.

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Gang rape isn't a psychological condition. The effects can be physical damage and psychological, which is PTSD that I linked to. The physical damage alone will not life-ruining. Many adults can not have children and I don't think their lives are ruined. I find it highly unlikely that her internal organs were damaged or that she will get seizures. I don't think you can be "sure" about this. Basically nothing gives evidence that her life was ruined.


Bat **** sez what?


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I think Lex might be off his med's.

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