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This is basically a caricature of how I'd expect an NPR exec to act.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... t=1&f=1001

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NPR's soon-to-be-departing senior vice president for fundraising Ron Schiller is seen and heard on a videotape released this morning telling two men who were posing as members of a fictitious Muslim Education Action Center Trust that:

— "The Tea Party is fanatically involved in people's personal lives and very fundamental Christian — I wouldn't even call it Christian. It's this weird evangelical kind of move."

— "Tea Party people" aren't "just Islamaphobic, but really xenophobic, I mean basically they are, they believe in sort of white, middle-America gun-toting. I mean, it's scary. They're seriously racist, racist people."

— "I think what we all believe is if we don't have Muslim voices in our schools, on the air ... it's the same thing we faced as a nation when we didn't have female voices." In the heavily edited tape, that comment followed Schiller being told by one of the men that their organization "was originally founded by a few members of the Muslim Brotherhood in America." There's no sign in the edited tape that Schiller reacted in any way after being told of the group's alleged connection to an Islamic group that appeared to be connected with Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood.

— That NPR "would be better off in the long run without federal funding," a position in direct conflict with the organization's official position.

Schiller is also heard laughing when one of the men jokes that NPR should be known as "National Palestinian Radio."


http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/08/n ... efe-video/

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I haven’t been this stunned and hurt since I found out Keith Olbermann was donating to Democrats.

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“The comments contained in the video released today are contrary to everything we stand for, and we completely disavow the views expressed. NPR is fair and open minded about the people we cover. Our reporting reflects those values every single day — in the civility of our programming, the range of opinions we reflect and the diversity of stories we tell.

“The assertion that NPR and public radio stations would be better off without federal funding does not reflect reality. The elimination of federal funding would significantly damage public broadcasting as a whole.

“Prior to the lunch meeting presented in the edited video, Ron Schiller had informed NPR that he was resigning from his position to take a new job. His resignation was announced publicly last week, and he was expected to depart in May. While we review this situation, he has been placed on administrative leave.”


I’d have more respect for them if they went the full Sheen and embraced their bad behavior. Have Vivian Schiller walk out at a presser wearing an Obama button and waving a machete and declare, “I’m tired of pretending we’re not special.” Sure, the GOP will defund NPR for it, but they’re probably going to do that anyway. A new statement from Eric Cantor:

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“As we continue to identify ways to cut spending and save valuable resources, this disturbing video makes clear that taxpayer dollars should no longer be appropriated to NPR. Not only have top public broadcasting executives finally admitted that they do not need taxpayer dollars to survive, it is also clear that without federal funds, public broadcasting stations self-admittedly would become eligible for more private dollars on top of the multi-million dollar donations these organizations already receive.

“At a time when our government borrows 40 cents of every dollar that it spends, we must find ways to cut spending and live within our means. This video clearly highlights the fact that public broadcasting doesn’t need taxpayer funding to thrive, and I hope that admission will lead to a bipartisan consensus to end these unnecessary federal subsidies.”

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Well, there's a bill to cease funding them. Hopefully it passes.

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From other news I've heard on this, it sounds like this was the last straw in several poor decisions that the CEO has made, and NPR is taking the right steps to correct it.

Unfortunately, it's just fuel for the fire with the Republicans.


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"Unfortunately?" Where in the Constitution does it say the government should be spending money on this crap?

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"Unfortunately?" Where in the Constitution does it say the government should be spending money on this crap?


Yes, unfortunately. I strongly support the government support (at all levels) for public radio, public TV and the arts.


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"Unfortunately?" Where in the Constitution does it say the government should be spending money on this crap?


The Constitution was made in the 1700s. It isn't in the Constitution because they didn't have radios back then.

The Constitution is very outdated and shouldn't be taken really seriously IMO.


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Aizle wrote:
Yes, unfortunately. I strongly support the government support (at all levels) for public radio, public TV and the arts.
Why? NPR, especially APM and Minnesota Public Radio, have become little more than propaganda machines.

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"Unfortunately?" Where in the Constitution does it say the government should be spending money on this crap?


The Constitution was made in the 1700s. It isn't in the Constitution because they didn't have radios back then.

The Constitution is very outdated and shouldn't be taken really seriously IMO.


So we should treat it like you?

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Khross wrote:
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Yes, unfortunately. I strongly support the government support (at all levels) for public radio, public TV and the arts.
Why? NPR, especially APM and Minnesota Public Radio, have become little more than propaganda machines.


Thats why Khross - it confirms his bias which is what his ego desires.

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Khross wrote:
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Yes, unfortunately. I strongly support the government support (at all levels) for public radio, public TV and the arts.
Why? NPR, especially APM and Minnesota Public Radio, have become little more than propaganda machines.


Riiiight. :roll:

We aren't going to agree here Khross. NPR and MPR is pretty much the most balanced reporting that's available today, and absolutely the ONLY reporting that's available that isn't sensationalized and overblown.


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If your radio station isn't biased one way then you won't get enough listeners.


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Aizle wrote:
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Aizle wrote:
Yes, unfortunately. I strongly support the government support (at all levels) for public radio, public TV and the arts.
Why? NPR, especially APM and Minnesota Public Radio, have become little more than propaganda machines.


Riiiight. :roll:

We aren't going to agree here Khross. NPR and MPR is pretty much the most balanced reporting that's available today, and absolutely the ONLY reporting that's available that isn't sensationalized and overblown.



Dude, seriously. Stop drinking the Kool-aid.

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Aizle wrote:
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Yes, unfortunately. I strongly support the government support (at all levels) for public radio, public TV and the arts.
Why? NPR, especially APM and Minnesota Public Radio, have become little more than propaganda machines.


Riiiight. :roll:

We aren't going to agree here Khross. NPR and MPR is pretty much the most balanced reporting that's available today, and absolutely the ONLY reporting that's available that isn't sensationalized and overblown.

I can't speak for MPR, but I can say that NPR and PBS are some of the most left-leaning news organizations. You only need look at editors comments on political matters to figure that one out. And editors control the content. I'll use an anecdote, though. One day I was listening to NPR and I forget the exact panel, but I believe it was composed of Juan Williams, Paul Krugman, and someone else who's a known left-winger discussing economic and political matters. Juan Williams was representing the conversative side. Juan Williams isn't exactly a libertarian/conservative or even a centrist for that matter.


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Yeah, I don't expect most folks here to agree with me. But seriously, you guys are so far right, that frankly you just prove my point.

Believe what you'd like to believe.

Ienan, your examples are commentary, not news. Yes, their commentary segments can lean left, however MPR in particular is very centrist. Their news segments, however, are quite balanced and informative vs. sensationalist.


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Aizle wrote:
NPR and MPR is pretty much the most balanced reporting that's available today, and absolutely the ONLY reporting that's available that isn't sensationalized and overblown.
Elmo is actually correct, it's simply a matter of confirmation bias. There's no balance in NPR anymore. And it's almost all human interest stories that push a liberal Democratic agenda. I know, I listen every day and am appalled at such things. The comments in the Original Post are not far off from things said every day on All Things Considered or NPR News. Indeed, yesterday, there was a story once against misrepresenting the current push against Teacher's and State Employee Unions as union busting, instead of taking it for what it is: dealing with a budgetary concern that is bankrupting several states because of unreasonable demands and union contracts.

In fact, your only defense in this thread is a poisoning the well attack. I'm sorry you believe them to be balanced, but I get enough exposure to know otherwise. Even Marketplace has been co-opted by a political agenda. There was a story on Marketplace the other day explaining how the Republicans support for Middle Eastern governance reform will ultimately lead to an apocalypse once it hits Saudi Arabia. Speaking of non-sensationalism ...

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Aizle wrote:
Yeah, I don't expect most folks here to agree with me. But seriously, you guys are so far right, that frankly you just prove my point.

Believe what you'd like to believe.




Doesn't that go for you as well? You are so far left that you can't or won't admit the bias. The fact that you defend them should show that it's biased to your side.

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Actually, the news on the Wisconsin issue has been pretty much spot on. The amout of that issue that actually addresses the budget is negligable and the Governor is being completely disingenous with his position. The unions already stated they would agree to all of the budgetary concerns, the ones they are holding out on are the ones that limit their collective bargaining rights.

But anyway, I'm done. I've seen how these arguments play out time and time again.


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Yeah, I don't expect most folks here to agree with me. But seriously, you guys are so far right, that frankly you just prove my point.

Believe what you'd like to believe.



Doesn't that go for you as well? You are so far left that you can't or won't admit the bias. The fact that you defend them should show that it's biased to your side.


Depends on the topic really. I'm pretty liberal when it comes to social issues. Fairly conservative when it comes to fiscal and rights issues.

If I'm biased towards anything it's educated informed analysis vs sensationalist evangelical reporting.


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As someone who is a social liberal and fiscal conservative - you are not a fiscal conservative.

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If you're done, why are you still talking?


I was being polite and responding to him, as his post happened before my "I'm done" post.

Now I'm really done.


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I dont know if they've recently gotten far worse, or it depends on what show you listen to, but they're a joke now. Even the presumably non political shows like Radio Lab are not immune from this nonsense.

Vivian Schiller (no relation) has also left:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... t=1&f=1001

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NPR President and CEO Vivian Schiller has resigned after NPR's board of directors decided that she could no longer effectively lead the organization.

This follows yesterday's news that then-NPR fundraiser Ron Schiller (no relation) was videotaped slamming conservatives and questioning whether NPR needs federal funding during a lunch with men posing as members of a Muslim organization (they were working with political activist James O'Keefe on a "sting.")

Vivian Schiller quickly condemned Ron Schiller's comments, and he moved up an already-announced decision to leave NPR and resigned effective immediately. But Ron Schiller's gaffe followed last fall's dismissal of NPR political analyst Juan Williams, for which Vivian Schiller came under harsh criticism and NPR's top news executive, Ellen Weiss, resigned.

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Actually, the news on the Wisconsin issue has been pretty much spot on. The amout of that issue that actually addresses the budget is negligable and the Governor is being completely disingenous with his position. The unions already stated they would agree to all of the budgetary concerns, the ones they are holding out on are the ones that limit their collective bargaining rights.

But anyway, I'm done. I've seen how these arguments play out time and time again.
You just spouted 3 falsehoods gleaned from NPR reporting, then declared you're done with the thread?

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I think the best way to describe NPR's news operations is: "intelligent, in-depth reporting by good-faith professionals who have a liberal worldview."


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